N1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 27937 posts, RR: 74
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2203 times:
I can see the reasoning for ARN. I do think that BUR is a good choice for many airlines to get some extra LA PAX, as people from LA like me always like to fly out of BUR. Unfortunately, NIMBYs are winning in the cause for a new terminal. I think that FAT is insane, I would take a winter in MSP over FAT (even though my parents met in Fresno, it has been considered the worst city in the US for years). Some of the others are not bad ideas, but would probably not be served by airlink, rather DC-9 Link =)
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Continental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5555 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2173 times:
MSP does have service to GSO. Pinnacle serves it with the CRJ. I definitely think that NWA needs another connection to Europe, they're stupid for not doing so. Germany would probably be the best bet, maybe even France.
NWAFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1893 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1835 times:
NWA is currently looking at the numbers of having NWA fly MSP-CDG vs AF flying the route...depending on the outcome of the cost and such, that will be the deciding factor. As of last week the MSP-CDG was leaning towards NWA for 2005 start.
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PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7979 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1724 times:
FAT - NW is not a major player in secondary West Coast markets, and they are not going to dedicate an A319 to operating this route so not likely
CAK - Could be possible in the future.
BTV - this flight operates on Saturdays seasonally (CRJ)
CRW - not likely, you'd see CRJ's to DTW first.
ELP - not too likely, although NW recently started MEM-McAllen, TX.
GSO - already exists
HSV - may be possible with a CRJ in the future
LEX - also could be possible
BUR - not likely as its a long route into an area NW is relatively weak in that would require a A319. Even DTW
TLH - not likely, NW is not a major player here, DL stronghold
PBI - operates seasonally
The major factor being that NW is hestitant to open up new stations domestically with mainline equipment. This means if its outside the range of the CRJ, then its not likely. NW only has about 25 more CRJ's coming, through spring of 2005. Cities that are likely are those that already have service to 2 NW hubs as they are focused on connecting the hubs. If they lie between 2 NW hubs then its very likely they will be connected at some point in the future.
As for international, NW has repeatedly said that DTW is their primary international gateway. DTW is the launch point for both European and Asia flights. MSP WILL NOT see service to any of these points unless it is already served from DTW. Thus the next likely route as mentioned is MSP-CDG.
There are many other routes that you'd likely see first: DTW-SJC, DTW-PDX (year-round), MEM-PDX, DTW-HNL (year-round).
This biggest point being, what additional connecting opportunies does MSP offer versus those that go through DTW. At that point is when it becomes advantagous to overfly DTW for MSP to open up new connecting opportunities.
Nwfltattendant From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 341 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1686 times:
Bottom line involving MSP-CDG... two words.. FORGET IT...
Its not going to happen as all of the European destined traffic goes through AMS now, and even with the addition of SkyTeam, will continue to route CDG bound traffic through DTW. NW will continue to drop as many routes as possible and turn them over to other carriers - mainly KL and AF.
Mikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1418 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (10 years 11 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1419 times:
Actually, TWFirst, was 4-22 ever lengthened? It's a good-sized runway now, but I thought it had been under study but subsequently never expanded to the required length for unrestricted nonstop HKG service. I do, however, recall a time when MSP-HKG did exist (which is why I put it on my "maybe, not likely" list), but I thought that because it was weight-restricted did the study take place.
Per the DTW being the current NW-center-of-the-universe comment earlier (and perhaps this belongs in its own thread), does DTW's plans to build a new Smith Terminal in the face of MSP's rather gratuitous 20/20 vision (which is very pro-SkyTeam by comparison) weigh into NW's enthusiasm as to which hub city gets what service? Just wondering if anyone thinks this is posturing on MSP's part to play less of a second fiddle to NW's amazing facilities in Detroit.