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Airtran Goes With Sarasota!  
User currently offlineNjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 731 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3594 times:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041004/nym081a_1.html


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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3567 times:

That is cool...now only if AirTran will come to IND!!!  Smile


The next generation of aircraft is just around the corner!
User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3552 times:

Good news, Sarasota has been hoping for low fare services for a long time, and seems to be losing out to nearby RSW, MCO and TPA, so this is progress for that airport. AirTran will do well here, they are already well established on ATL/BWI-Florida routes and service to Sarasota will add to existing schedules and destinations.

User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6789 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3535 times:

What were the other choices for service? The cities that Sarasota beat?


Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3512 times:

SRQ traffic tends to be very 'seasonal' and is only 40 miles south of TPA. I think this is a bold move for FL and I wish them luck..we'll see how they do.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33286 posts, RR: 71
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3498 times:

What were the other choices for service? The cities that Sarasota beat


There aren't any. Sarasota got this because Sarasota won a $1.5M government grant to subsidize this service.



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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3491 times:

How far is SRQ from RSW?


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User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6789 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3486 times:

In a poll conducted on http://www.airtran.com earlier this year, Sarasota-Bradenton received the most votes of cities where AirTran Airways travelers would like to see lower fares added through new service.

There aren't any. Sarasota got this because Sarasota won a $1.5M government grant to subsidize this service.


Then someone is lying on the newswire.. it said there was a poll...




Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3473 times:

"SRQ traffic tends to be very 'seasonal' and is only 40 miles south of TPA. I think this is a bold move for FL and I wish them luck..we'll see how they do. "


I don't know, with a $1.5 mil grant to subsidize, it can't be too much of a risk this winter. Is Delta the big player down there now? Probably with widebodys like everywhere else in Florida.


User currently offlineClipper002 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 680 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3467 times:

SRQ is halfway between TPA and RSW with I-75 connecting all 3. Sarasota as well as Ft. Myers have always been very seasonal with flight reductions in the summer and additions for the winter. A lot of mid-western retirees in both places play the snowbird game each fall and spring.

Ed



Ed
User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7558 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3458 times:

it said there was a poll...

Earlier this year, AirTran did indeed feature a 'pick a city' poll on its website. I'm not sure whether FL ever posted the results of this poll on their website.



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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3455 times:

I am still waiting for WN to invade RSW  Big grin


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33286 posts, RR: 71
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3394 times:

Then someone is lying on the newswire.. it said there was a poll...


Oh yeah, that poll. They put a pull on the airTran website where you could vote for tons of cities. The list was endless, there were at least two dozen.

Though, regardless of the fact if Sarasota "won" the poll or not (could be true, more likely it is a marketing gimmick), the only reason airTran is going to Sarasota is because of a $1.5M grant.



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User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6789 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3388 times:

Agreed, probably just a corporate "ploy", but I'm still interested, what were the other cities?

And why hasn't F9 added service at RDU? Newport News has about 4 destinations, and RDU only has one. Dangit!



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2081 posts, RR: 36
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3390 times:

Didn't Omaha win the poll?

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33286 posts, RR: 71
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3372 times:

Agreed, probably just a corporate "ploy", but I'm still interested, what were the other cities?


Just about every large and midsize city in the United States that airTran doesn't serve...Omaha, Sarasota, Konxville, Cincinnati, Cleveland....the list went on and on and on.

Newport News has about 4 destinations, and RDU only has one. Dangit!

Because Raleigh isn't the centre of the universe. Newport News is an underserved market in which airTran was able to fill a service void successfully. Raleigh is a market that is well served by plenty of US airline in which there is no void that airTran deems nessecary to fill.



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User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6789 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3375 times:

Because Raleigh isn't the centre of the universe.

Uhmm... okay...  Pissed

Since AirTran doesn't serve GSO anymore, and GSO was their CLT alternative, what's the likelyhood of AirTran now service CLT?



Aiming High and going far..
User currently online727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6623 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3154 times:

I don't know, with a $1.5 mil grant to subsidize, it can't be too much of a risk this winter. Is Delta the big player down there now? Probably with widebodys like everywhere else in Florida.

DL has NEVER scheduled widebodies into SRQ.. Pissed

How far is SRQ from RSW?

90 miles or so



I'm still waiting for someone to tell me the diffrence in the RSW market and the SRQ market... Confused cause I DON'T SEE ANY!!!!!!




oh...and YIPPIE!!!!!!!!!! This is the best news Mr. Piccolo has had in a long time



I feel woozy....what did you put in that Pudding Pop?
User currently offlineMoman From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1054 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3135 times:

I'm willing to bet that AirTran leaves SRQ as soon as the grant money dries up. SRQ is getting squeezed between RSW and TPA, even though they have a nice little facility there.

Moman



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User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

I'm still waiting for FL to start SAT service from ATL. And while they are looking at that, why not go super bold and do DFW-SAT ::ducks:: MAUH HA HA HA HA. I would like to see GPT-SAT service with FL. I would be one of the inaugural passengers.

User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3847 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3135 times:

RDU isnt the centre of the universe, thank god. Some are worse with talking about it than i am CRW and that says something... and with PHF, they seem to be strong. As previously said, They saw the market and took a fig at it and practically found a gold mine.

How much longer untill its a proven fact that you can fly a plane to anywhere in FL. and the route will prosper?


User currently offlineMoman From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1054 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3109 times:

There was an article in one of the local papers in TPA about SRQ and how airlines always start service when they get grant money and discountinue it once the money runs out. I can't remember which ones but I think it was DL and ATA. TWA used to fly there at one point from STL as well. I stand by my earlier statement that SRQ is not a big enough market, yet.

Moman



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User currently offlineCmhsrq From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 999 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3084 times:

from 727lover
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me the diffrence in the RSW market and the SRQ market... cause I DON'T SEE ANY!!!!!!

I expected you to know the answer to this one 727. Look at a map. RSW is a minimum 2 hour drive from a major airport (FLL or TPA) So they aren't in the shadow of a major airport with LLC service. RSW has a larger catchment area then SRQ that isn't overlapping with another airport. RSW has a long long runway, planes can depart full on hot days. I'm not sure if the 9500ft runway in SRQ limits that but I promise you the 7000 ft runway did. There are estimates that more people (greater then 50%) that live and visit the Sarasota area use TPA. Look at the pax numbers over the past 15 years, They had more pax use SRQ in 1990 then in 2003 by a significant margin. However the population of the area has exploded.

from Moman
I'm willing to bet that AirTran leaves SRQ as soon as the grant money dries up. SRQ is getting squeezed between RSW and TPA, even though they have a nice little facility there.


I don't think so, in fact I think the exact opposite will happen, they will realize what a great market it is and add flights and destinations. I worked ramp and ops in SRQ for 5 years. I looked at all those bag tags and know that SRQ could easliy support a daily to LGA, PHL, MDW, in addition to ATL and BWI. I bet a thousand additional seats could be filled in the summer and 2500 a day in March, the demand is that great.



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User currently offlineKkfla737 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1033 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2970 times:

The more people I speak to from the Sarasota area, the more fed up they are with driving to Tampa or Fort Myers to fly. I think FL will do fine with these new routes, and perhaps SRQ will get more new service soon. In the past the market was not large enough to accomodate many airlines, but Sarasota and Manatee counties have had exceptional growth in the past 10 years both in population and new businesses.

User currently offlineBh From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 525 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2882 times:

FL just had an article saying that there initial bookings have been so strong that they are already considering adding additional cities. They noted that most of these bookings are along with the holiday season but they are still extremley impressed with the bookings. Sarasota officials have also voiced thier excitement of this news in the article. I will try to find a link for you all.

25 Bh : Here it is... www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/local/9845948.htm sorry i cant get the link to show so this is the best i could do.[Edited 2004-10-
26 OttoPylit : "The public has asked for lower fares to Sarasota-Bradenton, and we're pleased to be able to offer this new service while bringing down fares in this
27 Kim777fan : "Accessible and affordable air service remains essential to our region's economic health and quality of life, particularly as we continue to experienc
28 Post contains images NonRevKing : SRQ - TPA = 40 miles SRQ - RSW = 77 miles From ATL Delta operates CRJ and 738 equipment From CVG Delta operates CRJ and 732 equipment Otto is probably
29 Luv2fly : AirTran if they do leave SRQ once the money is gone will not be the only airline to do this! AA just left DLH I believe it is once the money ran out.
30 NonRevKing : AirTran if they do leave SRQ once the money is gone will not be the only airline to do this! AA just left DLH I believe it is once the money ran out.
31 OttoPylit : "AirTran if they do leave SRQ once the money is gone will not be the only airline to do this! AA just left DLH I believe it is once the money ran out.
32 Cmhsrq : SRQ 10 years ago, Delta to TPA, CVG, ATL and BOS on the weekends, Usairways to LGA, PHL, PIT and CLT, Continental to EWR and CLE, NWA to DTW, TWA to S
33 Cmhsrq : Oh yea, Katherine Harris is only Satan if your a democrat, if your a republican then she is a saint. lol
34 BonanzaAir : Everyone always complains about Airtran taking the money and running when it's gone. Hello! - Airtran is in business to make money. Those 717 don't pa
35 OttoPylit : Bonanza, Airtran is in business to make money. But it makes money at the expense of the passengers. For instance, lets say you live in Valdosta, GA. A
36 Luv2fly : OK so who is guilty here? FL for taking the money and leaving once it ran out, or the airport for giving it without a plan of action? I mean the airpo
37 Bh : Ottopylit, Well what about the people that live there that cannot afford the current price of flying on other carriers. They are happy that they can j
38 Travatl : The problem are the pax in the market. They want the low fares that come with the low cost carrier, but they want them on the major their used to. So
39 BonanzaAir : Ottopylit, "Airtran is in business to make money. But it makes money at the expense of the passengers." No....Airtran's expense comes from flying 717'
40 Post contains links Quickmover : According to this article, the intial bookings are so strong that they are considering additional service to NY and PHL. ps I hope this link copys rig
41 NonRevKing : For delta's fares being low now, that is a response to FL starting service. Yes FL doesnt start service until december so they are trying to lure in a
42 Post contains images 727LOVER : I expected you to know the answer to this one 727. Look at a map. RSW is a minimum 2 hour drive from a major airport (FLL or TPA) So they aren't in th
43 OttoPylit : "Well what about the people that live there that cannot afford the current price of flying on other carriers. They are happy that they can just get a
44 Gsoflyer : They left a market where they made money to put planes where they will make more. That's a plan I can respect. Playing on the government to take tax d
45 Bh : Well FL is doing what anyone would do. If someone said "Hey bud i'll give you $500 if you give me a certain service for a certain amount of time", whe
46 BonanzaAir : Ottopylit - "What reward? Pulling out? Thats a reward? I don't know what your definition of rewards is, but pulling out of a city and decreasing compe
47 Rumorboy : "I am also a former employee of Airtran and am partly embarrassed to admit it. I don't like how the airline is run and how the employees are treated
48 BonanzaAir : Rumorboy - Did you get it out of your system......... I don't disagree with most of what you said, but did you get it out of your system? Remember, la
49 OttoPylit : Rumorboy, I doubt that you are a pilot(as it states in your profile) because I would not expect such childish remarks to come from someone with such a
50 Bh : "Now, until you can start acting a little more mature for your age and stick to the topic at hand instead of rattling off, then do not expect another
51 OttoPylit : Bh, "You obviously let the childish part of you take control of you here." Are you referring to me or rumorboy? If you're referring to him, you are co
52 NonRevKing : Let me tell you something tough guy, Were all going to have a party here in a couple a weeks when you guys go CH.11. You guys have to be be the most a
53 Flyer732 : LCC's hire the lowest common denominator Really? I'll remember that next time I'm supposed to check a load or make a listing. While there are people a
54 Post contains images NonRevKing : Really? I'll remember that next time I'm supposed to check a load or make a listing. Haha, you know exactly who I'm talking about, and it's not you Bi
55 Cmhsrq : Back to the topic from 727lover: "It's not like they JUST built SRQ. It's been between TPA and FMY/RSW for over 50 years. Why is it different NOW????
56 ERAUPilotATC : Wasn't AirTran thinking about KDAB as well?
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