Nyc777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5923 posts, RR: 46 Posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7254 times:
I read on Bloomberg that Libya will be buying a mix of 777 and A330. They're planning a total buy or about 24 aircraft for about $1.5 bn. I was unable to paste the link but I did see the story. No word on when they're be delivered or even when they will sign contracts.
Antonovman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5881 times:
"Has anyone been to Tripoli airport in the last 3-4 years? If so how is it for transitting pax etc?"
i was there about 2 weeks ago
airport terminal is not too bad but immigration is still a very slow and antiquated experience, for crew member at least
we regularly have to wait 2 hours for all the passport details to be hand written on immigration forms which also have to be given in at the hotel
not sure about pax but i think it will be the same
Imonti From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5587 times:
I think my "mate" Gadaffi realised after what happened in Iraq that the US and Britian went through there with out stopping to breath that he could be next and suddendly realised that westernisation is a "good thing"
So now he needs help and support and what better way than to buy american and european planes, but not rom one manufacturer, but from both to be all PC and to hand over his weapons.
KEESJE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5318 times:
I think my "mate" Gadaffi realised after what happened in Iraq that the US and Britian went through there with out stopping to breath that he could be next and suddendly realised that westernisation is a "good thing
Well, timing just don't fit, he started cooperating before Afghanistan & Iraq.
772ER and 332s have the same duty and the same market .
Many airlines think 772 and 332 are a good combination. CX, AF, KL, EK and others.. 772 is significant bigger/longer range..
Ts-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3731 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5105 times:
OK i'm wrong in my comparison, but when we are new in the long-haul market, it is better to start with a reduced capacity, and i think that the A332 is the best offer of the moment. Imagine if somethings happens on earth and TU orders long-hauliers, i'm sure it will be A332s...
Rj111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4009 times:
So thats the 3rd (potentially) order for the A332 and two new customers of late. And i thought Airbus had already sold up and began specialising in tooth pick manufacturing as they couldn't compete with the 7e7 .
Beaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4010 times:
Strange decision in that both type aircaft are longhaul and so far none of the maghreb companies ( exept som minor RAM sectors to USA and Canada) have attracted hughe intercontinental business. I would have thought a mix of A 320's or Boeings 737-NG plus some A 330's or 7E7's would have been a wiser choice. Where the hack would all the Lybian's want to fly anyhow other than to Rome for shopping ????
DIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3917 times:
A332s now, instead of waiting for the A350 or 7E7 is my guess. Utilizing the 777 as a their flagship is just plane smart - pun intended.
As others have pointed out. . .the 777 and the A330 seem to compliment each other making for a great pair for many airlines obviously. . .so much for Airbus's commonality sales point. Airlines will do whatever they feel is best. Sometimes commonality tactics work. . .in this case, well, they didn't. . .
Overall, it's nice to see an airline and a country making smart decisions in regards to the future. Other countries should take note.
Ding! You are now free to keep supporting Frontier.
LX23 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 350 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3821 times:
"...which is why they've paid millions for it in settlements"
Concordeboy: LOL...for this, and many other great (and usualy well though-out) posts welcome to my RU list
as many people pointed out, 777 and 332 mix seems to be quite sensible. Do remember that the 332s and 777s arent necessarily just for intercontinental routes, as they have the added attraction of being able to carry far more cargo than say a 737NG or A320. So it wouldn't be surprising if they used this the way EK does (Good example: DXB-BAH is a 777, simply because cargo makes for good income), and seeing them in many a European capital. Plenty of other airlines do this (LX amongst others). "Strange decision in that both type aircaft are longhaul and so far none of the maghreb companies ( exept som minor RAM sectors to USA and Canada) have attracted hughe intercontinental business"
If you look at airlines such as KU,SV,MS, etc, they also tend to use 777s and A330s for intra-Mideast/Maghreb flights. KWI-CAI is (i think) served by Widebodies something like (at least) 4 times a day, and this isnt necessarily the biggest city pair in the Mideast.
Behramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 5352 posts, RR: 47
Reply 24, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3686 times:
From : ATWONLINE.COM
Of the orders, 21 will be for aircraft in the 737/A320 family size range and the remaining three will be widebodies--possibly A330-200s or 777-200ERs. For political reasons, it is possible that the order will be split between Airbus and Boeing.
Long-haul operations to Bangkok, Beijing, Karachi, Manila, Delhi, New York and Rio de Janeiro will start as soon aircraft are available.
"I'm very optimistic that we will have traffic rights to the US in a short time," the Director added.