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User currently offlineAA787 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 610 posts, RR: 12
Posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 10519 times:

What new routes can we expect in the next few years. I assume more MIA expansion and when the termianl is done, a JFK expansion.

Any ideas/ possibilities?

AA787


ET In NYC
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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 10404 times:

ORD-HKG is expected to finally begin next year, with 772ERs.

AA's also seeking approval for ORD-PVG, also on 772ERs.


User currently offlineTan Flyr From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1906 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 10294 times:

AA owns the vast majority of dormant TWA route authorities from JFK, LAX , SFO and other cities. A few were discarded or truncated by other governments when the transfer took over from TW to AA. But, most remain intact, unused.

Someone once placed on here a link to a DOT site that lists them all..it dozens of pages long.

That being said, Someday down the road when political, security, or just plain economic issues all come together, you can expect AA to exercise some of those long dormant routes. Now I WOULD NOT expect them to fly old ones such as BOS-Santa Maria,in the Azores. TWA had dozens of long thin international routes that they served only several times per week during the 50's,60's and even into the 70's, usually with 707's.

But I would bet that someday JFK to Moscow, or JFK to other eastern European cites or even Teheran, or Bagdad..who knows?.

(I found an old TWA Travel Guide hardback book from 1956 at a old book sale...TWA served Basra, Iraq (as well as Amman,Jordan) with Constellations.
That route authority still exists..long dormant!)


User currently offlineB757200 From Spain, joined Sep 2004, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10262 times:

I read somewhere that MIA - VLN (Arturo Michelena Int'l, Valencia, Venezuela) is one of the possible new routes to Latin America over the next year.

User currently offlineGustyOrange From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10247 times:

GLA-BOS has been strongly rumoured here.

Here's hoping for an announcement shortly  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Gusty


User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2688 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10216 times:

AA has recently added new routes to STL and they could still restore all the TWA routes they cut if they wanted to. But I'm not getting my hopes up too high on that. Good to hear ORD-HKG is going to be started. Any possibility AA will add international service out of SFO?


Fly one thing; Fly it well
User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10190 times:

I too have heard from our A.NET source (MAH....) that MIA-VLN service is being STRONGLY considered and will more than likely be launched sometime in 2005. Pre 911 this route was a go but it was postponed. If granted, it will be flown daily with a 738.

Also have heard in the rumour mill that possible SJU-PMV on American Eagle and MIA-PMV service on AA is being considered. PMV = Porlamar/Isla Margarita, Venezuela in the Caribbean. This is a very popular vacation destination for many Venezuelans, Latins and Europeans.

Im sure we will see more EURO expansion as well from AA once the massive AA/AE/OneWorld terminal at MIA is completed. Possible routes that might be seen are FCO, FRT, BRU etc.



My 2 cents...Ciao!



Nothing better than making love at 35K Feet!
User currently offlineB757200 From Spain, joined Sep 2004, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10115 times:

Also have heard in the rumour mill that possible SJU-PMV on American Eagle and MIA-PMV service on AA is being considered

That's great news! Big grin. I assume they would use ATR42/72 to cover SJU-PMV, right?


User currently offlineGustyOrange From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10084 times:

Hi MIASkies,

Do you have any info on the MIA expansion ? I'd love to know more.

Cheers

Gusty


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2004 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10031 times:

Also have heard in the rumour mill that possible SJU-PMV on American Eagle and MIA-PMV service on AA is being considered
Yes, but this rumour is already about two years old - same as MIA or SJU to VLN. I don´t think we are going to see that soon. Although it would be great. VA and VH tried US-routes out of PMV such as JFK-PMV and Canada (I don´t remember the airport)-PMV. It didn´t work. But I am sure that both, PMV and VLN would work with all those AA-conections.


User currently offlineMikesairways From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 706 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9983 times:
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They seriously need to beef up SJC again. They have that International Terminal and runways that were pretty much built for them. Get rid of those RJ's and bring back some long haul flights again.


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User currently offlineGLAGAZ From UK - Scotland, joined Feb 2004, 1983 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9964 times:

Gusty is right regarding the rumours for BOS-GLA. Also MIA-GLA is rumoured and for ORD-GLA to go year-round.


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User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4447 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9930 times:

Would love to see them restart EWR-LHR. Guess that's probably too much to hope for, though...

User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9924 times:

Although the PMV rumour might be 2 yrs old, remember that most major airlines are just now starting to recover from post 911 interruptions and delays with expansion. So VLN is definetly going to happen sometime soon and PMV is not out of the question.

JFK-PMV seems like a very diffcult route to serve for any airlines nevertheless smaller carriers but MIA-PMV service could easily be done. As stated offering connections for many travelers through MIA and headed to PMV and also for the large Venezuelan community residing in Miami and So.Florida who love Isla Margarita! Definetly could see AA using a 738 at least twice a week from MIA.

Maybe an increase in MIA-SFO service with UA pulling their flights to SFO from MIA, maybe AA could increase theirs as well.



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8897 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 9891 times:

There have been continual rumours of AA starting PVD-MIA. Probably sometime late 2005/early 2006 (that's what I've heard at least)

Jeff


User currently offlineGustyOrange From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9730 times:

GLA-MIA would be great GAZ. Hopefully MAN-MIA will be a success and GLA will be next in line.

Gusty  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1406 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9721 times:

What are the forward bookings for the AA MIA-MAN-MIA route??

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineWomack17 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 488 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 9665 times:
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Raleigh/Durham-Los Angeles has been mentioned as a very strong possibility. The O&D numbers between the two cities certainly justifies a 738 at least once a day.

Personally I would love too see a 772 route of LAX-RDU-LGW-RDU-LAX simply because the 772 would be a fantastic ride across the USA. I do enjoy the 738, but c'mon no comparison to the 772

[Edited 2004-10-06 00:28:24]


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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7569 posts, RR: 43
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9515 times:

Do you think AA is considering RDU-MEX or STL-MEX?


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6761 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9482 times:

I highly doubt the RDU-MEX. The only way RDU will get direct service to MEX is if AM or MX flies to RDU. That probably isn't in the picture anytime soon, either.

The closest RDU will probably get to MEX is a RDU-CUN. And even that doesn't look likely.



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User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2358 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9431 times:

I'm guessing we won't see anything new out of PHX in light of the whipping HP gave them.

Why is AA so weak on the LAX/SFO-Europe nonstop routes?



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User currently offlineCayman From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9431 times:

Before we were wiped out by Ivan I had often thought that AEagle should start a 1x daily GCM SJU. I really believe this route has some potential. Not necessarily so much on the Puerto Rico Cayman traffic, whcih might be minimal, but, SJU has so many connections to the eastern Caribbean islands of which there is huge biz travel from Cayman.

As it now stands for example to go from Cayman to USVI or BVI requires a big backtrack to Miami and a connection--makes it a day long trip.

They could easily fill an Eagle a/c on this route.

Now, this may be interrupted by Ivan and the fact that Cayman is currently wrecked--however I am trying to be optimistic--


User currently offlineRCS763av From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4394 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8887 times:

Lets hope for BAQ-MIA and BOG-ORD.


Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
User currently offline65captin From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8803 times:

Just because I was born and lived a great deal of my life in the eastern Serria's I would love to see AA reconsider their Mammoth Lakes route in California from ORD and SFO. It would bring lots of additional Skiers from all over the country and maybe boost the local economy!
Though Mammoth is at +6700 Elv with a runway of 7000ft it may not be long enough for the 757's they were considering when they days get hot.

BlueSkies!
65captin



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User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1560 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 8713 times:

Does this ring a bell?
http://ostpxweb.dot.gov/aviation/intav/webcou02i.pdf



The sky is the limit as long as you can stay there
25 MAH4546 : Yes, but this rumour is already about two years old - same as MIA or SJU to VLN. I don´t think we are going to see that soon. Porlamar, not soon. Val
26 Flynavy : A while back I read a post regarding AA opening up RIC-MIA nonstop on a 738. As far as I can tell, they only operate this route nonstop w/ an ER3. Did
27 Ckfred : During the summer of 2001, AA announced that it would start ORD-AMS in the summer of 2002, and that it was seeking authority for ORD to Moscow, starti
28 LambertMan : I would have to think that SFO-FLL would happen, that was something that has floated around St Louis over past summers. I rarely hear or get on the su
29 Leneld : I hope in 5 years to see STL-PDX and PDX-JFK on American...
30 Baw716 : Byrdluvs747 This is conjecture based on market presence, but I would suspect AA does not do well LAX/SFO-Europe because United has too big a presence
31 N1120a : Actually, most of the time LH flies 2x to FRA and 1x to MUC. Also, WN flies the most flights at LAX, though not by much. AA has tried LAX-CDG before,
32 BMI701EGCC : Hi Guys, MAN - MIA. Starts on November 1st 2004, fully booked for the first couple of weeks i have been told. MAN - BOS. Rumours have started flying a
33 GKirk : GLA-MIA? I think they'll go year round on the GLA-ORD flight before that happens, although GLA-BOS is very highly rumoured to be announced soon on the
34 GustyOrange : I guess you are right GKirk. I'd be happy with ORD year round starting next year and MIA 06. If GLA-BOS is starting next year, do you reckon we can ex
35 NYCAAer : I haven't heard anything about ORD-HKG starting next year. There is nothing about it in any company info. ORD-PVG is AA's big priority right now.
36 AA787 : I heard that JFK-BCN JFK-FCO (year round) JFK/ORD-SVO ORD-PVG/HKG are all possibilities (they are ideas on this forum, I don't want to start rumors) A
37 Rob2507 : It looks like the BOS-MAN service was announced on 1/14/04, with service starting in mid-May. So, they were able to start the flights with 4 months no
38 AA787 : Rob-BOS-MAN is summer only anyway. They now have MIA-MAN in the winter. AA787
39 Moman : Maybe AA will bring back STL-LGW and STL-HNL. Moman
40 Aa777jr : Hey Guys, I am always bugging my CFi about where AA will be flying next. He flys 767/777 as a captain and Check Airman. Here are a few things I've hea
41 MAH4546 : MIA-MEX AA has flown MIA-MEX for over a decade, three times a day. SJC-NRT (year round) SJC-NRT has been year-round since it's introduction in 1994. S
42 Aa777jr : I meants to say MIA-MTY, not MEX, sorry. MIA-GLA (rumors) Would really like to see AA go over the Pacific more often. AA777jr
43 ERJ170 : Hey Guys, I am always bugging my CFi about where AA will be flying next. He flys 767/777 as a captain and Check Airman. Here are a few things I've hea
44 NYCAAer : Also, JFK-BCN was slated to start in the spring of 2003, and the future bookings were so bad the flight was scrapped before it even started. I doubt A
45 MIASkies : As far as AA and AE here are some NEW and Seasonal Routes coming back this year... 1. NYC-BCN ; Highly doubtful...that route was to be launched in the
46 NYCAAer : MIASkies, JFK-BCN was NEVER flown at all. The route was dropped from SABRE before it was due to commence.[Edited 2004-10-07 16:23:54]
47 NikonDFW : Word has it that DFW-KIX may return next year, and one of the two DFW-NRT flights will be given back to JL. This will free up some NRT slots for othe
48 Post contains images MIASkies : NYCAAer...hence my "was to be launched..." so it prob won't be flown anytime soon I should have said rather than "anymore" ...better? cheers from Miam
49 MAH4546 : CLE - launched Sept. 2004; daily (except Sat)- ERJ EGE - to be launched Winter Seasonal 2004; Mon & Wed - 752 MIA-CLE has been flown since the early 1
50 MIASkies : Cmon now Mark..cut me a break! hahaha didnt you read my intro: "As far as AA and AE here are some NEW and Seasonal Routes coming back this year... " s
51 Chiguire : Porlamar, not soon. Valencia is happening, with daily 738 service from Miami. MAH4546 What do you mean by "is" happening ?
52 NYCAAer : I don't know about restarting DFW-KIX. It was dropped not just to poor yields in first and business class, but also due to extremely high landing fees
53 Bartond : NikonDFW - don't tease me with that stuff about JAL coming back and the DFW-KIX flight returning. I heard the KIX flight didn't do that well in the ca
54 Aa777flyer : SJC-NRT has been year-round since it's introduction in 1994 This route was actually introduced in March 1991. It was originally flown with a DC10
55 MAH4546 : MAH4546 What do you mean by "is" happening ? American Airlines will be flying to Valencia, Venezuela, hopefully soon. The service was originally set t
56 Thrust : I certainly would like to see STL-HNL and STL-JFK, and STL-LGW restored.
57 Aa61hvy : Maybe it had a poor average but when I flew DFW-KIX, I sat in first, it was full and biz class was aboit 90% full. I heard they left because of high l
58 Post contains images Aa777jr : "Expect some cuts on the international front." AA isn't really a huge international player to start with I don't think. I mean, aside from S America a
59 AA787 : AA has clearly stated that they want to expand internationally. AA787
60 Aa777jr : Why is FCO a seasonal route for AA? It doesn't make sense. Also, is ZRH still seasonal? AA777jr
61 ConcordeBoy : Why is FCO a seasonal route for AA? It doesn't make sense. ...why, in your mind, doesn't it make sense?
62 AA 777 : "Also, is ZRH still seasonal?" Nope, its year round though this winter I believe JFK-ZRH will go 5x weekly instead of the current daily.
63 Bartond : I think all AA ZRH services are daily and year-round. I'm not sure about JFK but the DFW-ZRH service evidently is one of the better performing interna
64 Iowaman : Hopefully mainline back to DSM and CID! Seriously.
65 Tommy767 : EWR-SFO (considering UAL being in a weak state) EWR-SJC (only continental serves this route.)
66 ChrisNH : It appears to this observer that Manchester-Boston on the 757 has been a marvelous success. Taking a dormant route and applying a 757 to it was a leap
67 MAH4546 : AA isn't really a huge international player to start with I don't think. I mean, aside from S America and Caribbean, They don't operate a huge amount
68 Fabi727 : Valencia- Miami with AA will be great Now that Ducth caribbean is finished. will be a good opportunity to launch the flights as DCA used to take a lo
69 NYCAAer : The JFK-ZRH route will go from daily to 5x a week on Nov. 1. It hasn't been profitable because it doesn't have enough O&D traffic. In January a decisi
70 HUYfan : Chris, NH AA previously flew 757s into MAN from JFK in the 90s, so BOS is not the first AA 757 service accross the pond. Regards Mike
71 Kkfla737 : I'm not sure AA is that interested in excersing the old TWA route authorities. It's a shmae but the economy just isn't good enough right now to fly to
72 Jfklganyc : BCN was axed with the start of the Iraq war. It was never started, but I am sure that they would love to do it. PJ
73 MIASkies : If my memory serves me correct, it was posted on this forum that the reason as to why the JFK-BCN route on AA was axed was because of poor sales. So p
74 Kkfla737 : MIA-BCN would be a nice new route to compliment AA's MIA-MAD. JFK-BCN was an old TWA route but was most of the time a tag on to the JFK-LIS flight.
75 MAH4546 : think AA should try the BCN flight but not from JFK. Rather from MIA, either try a 2x weekly non stop 763ER from MIA to BCN rather than daily or 2x w
76 MIASkies : Really 3x to 5x or daily?? that much potential? I wouldnt think so but hey that sounds awesome if it could work out! I travel to BCN often and would l
77 MAH4546 : Really 3x to 5x or daily?? that much potential? I wouldnt think so but hey that sounds awesome if it could work out! I travel to BCN often and would l
78 KA501 : NW apparently wants to use 757s from Boston to places like Glasgow etc...routes previously served by DC-10s. I don't know whether the 757-300 is suit
79 KA501 : A rumour on other groups states an LAX-MAN route from April 2005?
80 Mirrodie : what I don;t understand is that with the 777 and 380, why doesn't AA go the distance to offer Sydney-New York non stop?? And I pray every day for a su
81 Thrust : AA is a huge international player....they serve Roma (Italy), Zurich, Frankfurt, Madrid, London (Heathrow and Gatwick)...they are a big player in Sout
82 Aa777jr : Thrust, My previous post wasn't slamming AA. I know they are #1 in Caribbean and S America for US carriers, but like you stated, they don't have a hug
83 A300AA : DFW-BOG MIA-CTG Pay attention to this.....
84 MAH4546 : My previous post wasn't slamming AA. I know they are #1 in Caribbean and S America for US carriers, but like you stated, they don't have a huge number
85 ScottishLaddie : I've read that representatives for AA visited EDI not too long ago to check out the facilities on offer before making any sort of decision. Anyone kno
86 757MDE : Lets hope for BAQ-MIA and BOG-ORD. MIA-BAQ could be restarted if some problems are solved, but I highly doubt they'll do such a thing as BOG-ORD anyti
87 Post contains images GustyOrange : That's right SL, they were checking out where the ORD/MIA/BOS-GLA flights divert to should weather close GLA. Gusty
88 Post contains images ScottishLaddie : EDI would be the wise choice given for most of the passengers it would be there final destination after they'd landed at GLA. Infact they might as wel
89 Post contains images GustyOrange : Have you been on the Don Revie today SL ? Looks like it was paper talk. Guess we will have to wait 'till next year to find out what's going on. Gusty
90 Post contains images ScottishLaddie : LOL, I should be asking you the same question! MIA-GLA on AA! Stick to the happy holiday charters to SFB and you'll be fine.
91 Aa777jr : MAH4546, I just meant that UA, NW, or CO, flys to more cities in Europe that AA. I'm sure with the huge amount of traffic that LHR, FRA, and CDG have,
92 MAH4546 : I just meant that UA, NW, or CO, flys to more cities in Europe that AA. American Airlines has a more extensive trans-Atlantic network than either Unit
93 Womack17 : "LAX-RDU is somewhat of a no-brainer as long as HP or WN doesn't make a dive into it. Too much o/d traffic to go without a n/s" The maddening thing ab
94 AAplatnumflier : I would like to know where AA is going to get these extra planes or where are the planes coming from? I have always wondered that fir whatever airline
95 ConcordeBoy : why doesn't AA go the distance to offer Sydney-New York non stop?? ...why would they, particularly in the current business climate?
96 AAplatnumflier : Also they would be competing with their close business partner, QF, and why would they want to ruin a relationship?
97 Texasflyer : I would like to see some more AA flights to ELP, it's my hometown airport and most of the AA flights in and out of ELP are full.
98 Blhp68 : MCI-MIA has to be on their short term radar right now. I have heard this route in talks on and off for the past 2 years. I wonder if Midwest Airlines
99 Post contains images Byrdluvs747 : Also they would be competing with their close business partner, QF, and why would they want to ruin a relationship? Why would AA flying to SYD ruin t
100 Aa777flyer : AA only has rights to fly to SYD from HNL. AA tried this once before in the early 90's with DC-10-30's but lost quite a bit of $$$$. Even if AA could
101 ConcordeBoy : Even if AA could (had the rights to fly) LAXSYD they do not have an airplane that can do it right now. This is just a tad bit out of range for the 777
102 KKMolokai : Attended a meeting the other day, and was advised by one of AA's In-Flight Managers, that AA will be returning to Osaka, Japan in '05 (May-ish). I als
103 Bartond : Going back to Osaka from where - ORD, DFW, LAX? I heard the DFW-KIX route didn't do well once they lost cargo contracts and the cabin wasn't full most
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