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DL Announces CLT To JFK And LGA.  
User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4364 posts, RR: 6
Posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4966 times:
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ATLANTA, Oct. 7 /PRNewswire/ -- Delta Connection (NYSE: DAL - News) will offer Charlotte, N.C., customers not one, but two options for non-stop travel to New York this winter.
Beginning Dec. 1, Delta Connection carrier Comair will offer three daily non-stop flights from Charlotte to New York's La Guardia Airport. On Jan. 31, 2005, Comair will offer one daily non-stop flight to Delta's international gateway at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041007/clth065_1.html


Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD. Return: US SJD-PHX, WN PHX-MDW-DSM
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User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22715 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4858 times:

I suspect that the fares available on CLT-JFK will be heavily restricted so that it is really not a viable O&D option. JFK-ORD on OH is like that now.


I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6575 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4834 times:

Interesting to see that DL changed their mind a little bit on this service. A month ago when they announced the restructuring plan, they announced JFK-CLT 2x daily and nothing else. Now, they are launching CLT-LGA 3x daily, but dropping JFK down to 1x daily just to do the international feed.

I think the CLT-JFK route will do ok. However, I doubt DL will have much luck on CLT-LGA....USAirways is too dominant on this route. The only way it would work would be if US fails.



User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4826 times:

Airtran should start CLT-ATL, BWI, MCO, TPA, FLL.
No competition besides USAir on any of these nonstops except ATL with Delta.


User currently onlineRyefly From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4786 times:

I am glad to see the competition on this route. I hope the fares fall as a result. US Airways was charging close, if not over for some flight times a $1,000.00 round trip from CLT to LGA and that's with staying over a Saturday night. They know a lot of bankers take this route and so they gouge them. It's not right.

User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22715 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4750 times:

They know a lot of bankers take this route and so they gouge them. It's not right.

Sure it is. It's called capitalism. If they can fill the planes then they ought to charge whatever people will pay. US isn't a charity.



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5628 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4732 times:

They know a lot of bankers take this route and so they gouge them. It's not right.
Sure it is. It's called capitalism. If they can fill the planes then they ought to charge whatever people will pay. US isn't a charity.

Another hallmark of capitalism is that a different carrier can start service and undercut US's fares.



"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineIndio66 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4698 times:

I am one of the business people that takes that flight and it is generally $1,200+ for a walk up R/T flight. I am suprised it took so long for another carrier to come in. Another situation where other carriers are going after USAirways.



User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22715 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4674 times:

Another hallmark of capitalism is that a different carrier can start service and undercut US's fares.

I wholeheartedly agree. The point is that US' previous behavior was not inherently unfair.



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4505 times:

DL isn't interested in this market from a profit/loss standpoint.

It's could be a number of things.

They plan to discount fares in this market so USAir will lose a load of revenue defending their market share weakening them further.

They feel USAir is on it's last legs and want to get in there before anyone else does.

Or USAir is discounting some premium Delta market and this is pay back.



User currently offlineUnitedTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4433 times:

Its DL getting back at US for announcing DCA ATL flights!

just my .02c!

-m

 Big thumbs up


User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22715 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4396 times:

DL is going to have a hard time gaining business travelers from US without a premium product. F on a 321 vs. a CRJ is a no-brainer for me. US also has so much capacity on CLT-NYC (15 dailies mainline, 1 express) that DL is going to have a hard time being competitive and making money at the same time given the huge capacity advantage that US has. A quick look at US' fares for travel in late November/early December reveals that fares are quite reasonable.


I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4364 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4329 times:
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The fares are over $650 before DL starts service, then after they do they drop to just below $200. They price gouge big time. I don't consider there current fares reasonable at all.


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User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22715 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4279 times:

I priced a trip in CLT-LGA in early December with no Saturday night stay and the price was $192. Obviously, with less advance purchase the fares go up, but that's the nature of the beast. I certainly consider that reasonable.


I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4364 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4203 times:
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I do also, but after Dec. 1st is when DL shows up and lowers the fares.


Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD. Return: US SJD-PHX, WN PHX-MDW-DSM
User currently offlineRogerThat From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4178 times:

US isn't a charity

Their financial statements resemble a not-for-profit organization.


User currently offlineAdam T. From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 957 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4172 times:

I think this will be good news for people in CLT and NYC that travel between the two cities for tourism, see family, etc. US Airways does have high fares generally into LGA. DL is smart to start this route in time for the Christmas rush.

The feed into JFK for International flights will be great as well considering that CLT does not have any direct service to JFK.

Adam


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