CLEfan From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 299 posts, RR: 1 Posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5729 times:
Looks like there is a big announcement coming tomorrow in CLE. The article isn't really helpful about the substince of the announcement, but it does say that CO will keep the CLE hub for another 10 years. Gordon will be there, and hopefully a new route or two will be announced!
MasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 4977 posts, RR: 7 Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5087 times:
It's very nice for CO to say we're here for ten years (and where did they come up with that number?), but it's even better if they announce some kind of investment - new flights, new facilities ... what have you.
Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4721 times:
Just came back from the employee meeting with Gordon, Larry Kellner and Jeff Smisek. No new route announcements, so you can put those to rest at this time.
They did mention they will enter into a memorandum of understanding with the city, to extend the lease at CLE. No details given on that in the meeting, as Gordon was headed downtown to meet with Mayor Jane after meeting with employees.
Kellner did say there will be growth in CLE in the next few years, mostly domestic RJ service, but that's to be expected. He did not rule out more European service.
N766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8035 posts, RR: 25 Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4675 times:
Well, it seems the only announcment today is that CO is commited for another 10 years. No new routes or other such plans. And, in this business, everything changes so fast that CO might not even be around in 10 years, let alone hubbing in Cleveland. They might as well just not announced anything.
Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4614 times:
N766UA, why so negative today, my friend? First, the old lease agreement was expiring, and there was a lot of media speculation (and weekly Anet speculation, it seems), about CLE.
Kellner says CO is committed to CLE, and visa-versa. Can that change? Of course it can. Everyone knows that, but for now, the hub stays, is stable, and will see some growth in the future. No one can see 10 years away, so don't even try right now. I'm happy, because maybe it will shut up the media and that armchair QB's on Anet for a while, who don't have a clue, but always are shooting off at the mouth about this subject.
Ltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12675 posts, RR: 13 Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4525 times:
Probably renewing the leases at the long 10 year term is significant to the finances of CO. They probably got a fair deal from the city, that is a reasonable price for CO CLE can live with and keep CO's hub there. This is good for CLE with the decline and possible liquidation of US Air. This is also good publicity for CO in that region.
Rjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3698 times:
Just came back from the employee meeting with Gordon, Larry Kellner and Jeff Smisek. No new route announcements, so you can put those to rest at this time
Just wondering about this one......But how do the three of them get along? Are they friends? Weren't their rumors that Bethune was being pushed out and that there was some hostility between Bethune and Kellner?
DIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 29 Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3541 times:
"Even though I support CO all the way...I can hardly call CLE a hub when comparing to EWR or IAH."
I see your point. I've been through CLE on Continental. . .and at least as far as CO mainliners go, there aren't nearly the numbers when compared to the other hubs. On the other hand, it seemed as though I was smack dab in the hive of the CO ERJs. . .just a bunch of those bees buzzing around. . .but I loved it. There were thousands of them. Okay, there were hundreds. Fine, there were tens. . .but still many more than I've ever seen in one place. . .
Ding! You are now free to keep supporting Frontier.
TOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3246 posts, RR: 4 Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3344 times:
"The article says that CO has agreed to extend their lease at CLE for ten years in return for certain improvements, including the 11,250 ft runway extension) promised by the city."
there you have it ladies and gents, proof positive that more int'l service is to come from CLE. Needing such a long runway, it's obvious to me that CO and Embraer has perfected the technology need to add drop tanks to the ERJ. They obviously need the longer runway to take off with the extra fuel weight...
Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3047 times:
I fail to see why someone doesn't consider CLE a hub in CLE, when that's not true. What constitutes a hub in some of your minds? Widebodies? A certain threshold of flights? A certain mix of regional/mainline? What's your criteria?
CO has more than 250 flights a day in/out of CLE. That's a significant amount of service. No, it doesn't meet the amount of service CO has in IAH and EWR, but those are larger markets, and they're strategically positioned, more than CLE, to serve international markets-EWR for Europe and IAH for Mexico and Latin America. But that doesn't mean CLE doesn't have a hub, in any stretch.
Here is video of the entire press conference held today, courtesy of WKYC-TV, the NBC affilliate in CLE.