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Continental Announcement In CLE  
User currently offlineCLEfan From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 299 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6178 times:

Looks like there is a big announcement coming tomorrow in CLE. The article isn't really helpful about the substince of the announcement, but it does say that CO will keep the CLE hub for another 10 years. Gordon will be there, and hopefully a new route or two will be announced!

http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_fullstory.asp?id=24579

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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8292 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6113 times:

Fingers Crossed.



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User currently offlineChrisjake From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 874 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5849 times:


Amsterdam next summer?!!?!?!



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User currently offlineSwacle From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 376 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5731 times:

C'mon HNL, C'mon HNL...764 all the way!....ok, I'll stop smokin whatever I'm smokin


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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12113 posts, RR: 49
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5672 times:
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Good news the hub stays for the next the years......... Well at least we can now stop all the threads on when will CO pull out of CLE!


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently onlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5462 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5536 times:

It's very nice for CO to say we're here for ten years (and where did they come up with that number?), but it's even better if they announce some kind of investment - new flights, new facilities ... what have you.


I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12113 posts, RR: 49
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5470 times:
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Yes now we can stop the all the threads titled when will CO pull out of CLE.


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8292 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5412 times:

You know United pledged at least another decade of the Cleveland hub right before they pulled out....

Words are cheap.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12113 posts, RR: 49
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5397 times:
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And AA is removing MRTC on all there aircraft? So airlines change there minds, what is your point?


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineIowa744fan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 931 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5334 times:

Does CO operate any widebodies out of CLE? It is all narrowbodies, correct? Do they still operate any of the 757 longhauls over to Gatwick or anywhere else in Europe?

User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3979 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5325 times:
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during the summer i believe there are 5 757's a day...........EWR/BWI/LAS/LGW/LAX


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User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2644 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5310 times:

Iowa744fan

CO has no regularly scheduled widebody from CLE. They have 73x, 757 and Continental Express and Commutair operations. There was a 777 there a while ago on a sub I think.

CLE is a good airport and CO a good airline - even w/o widebodies @ CLE.



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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3979 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5218 times:
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actually the 777's that have stopped there were either medical diversions or weather diversions from EWR


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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5170 times:

Just came back from the employee meeting with Gordon, Larry Kellner and Jeff Smisek. No new route announcements, so you can put those to rest at this time.  Smile

They did mention they will enter into a memorandum of understanding with the city, to extend the lease at CLE. No details given on that in the meeting, as Gordon was headed downtown to meet with Mayor Jane after meeting with employees.

Kellner did say there will be growth in CLE in the next few years, mostly domestic RJ service, but that's to be expected. He did not rule out more European service.


User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8292 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5124 times:

Well, it seems the only announcment today is that CO is commited for another 10 years. No new routes or other such plans. And, in this business, everything changes so fast that CO might not even be around in 10 years, let alone hubbing in Cleveland. They might as well just not announced anything.


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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5063 times:

N766UA, why so negative today, my friend? First, the old lease agreement was expiring, and there was a lot of media speculation (and weekly Anet speculation, it seems), about CLE.

Kellner says CO is committed to CLE, and visa-versa. Can that change? Of course it can. Everyone knows that, but for now, the hub stays, is stable, and will see some growth in the future. No one can see 10 years away, so don't even try right now. I'm happy, because maybe it will shut up the media and that armchair QB's on Anet for a while, who don't have a clue, but always are shooting off at the mouth about this subject.  Smile


User currently offlineLtbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4974 times:

Probably renewing the leases at the long 10 year term is significant to the finances of CO. They probably got a fair deal from the city, that is a reasonable price for CO CLE can live with and keep CO's hub there. This is good for CLE with the decline and possible liquidation of US Air. This is also good publicity for CO in that region.

User currently onlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5462 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4249 times:

http://crainscleveland.com/news.cms?newsId=2607

The article says that CO has agreed to extend their lease at CLE for ten years in return for certain improvements, including the 11,250 ft runway extension) promised by the city.



I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4147 times:

Just came back from the employee meeting with Gordon, Larry Kellner and Jeff Smisek. No new route announcements, so you can put those to rest at this time

Just wondering about this one......But how do the three of them get along? Are they friends? Weren't their rumors that Bethune was being pushed out and that there was some hostility between Bethune and Kellner?


User currently offlineCOEWR2587 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 607 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4056 times:

Even though I support CO all the way...I can hardly call CLE a hub when comparing to EWR or IAH.


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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3979 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4005 times:
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i think they get along fine............the hostility is b/t Gordon adn one of hte board members.........i cant recall his name someone will post it here shortly.


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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3990 times:

"Even though I support CO all the way...I can hardly call CLE a hub when comparing to EWR or IAH."

I see your point. I've been through CLE on Continental. . .and at least as far as CO mainliners go, there aren't nearly the numbers when compared to the other hubs. On the other hand, it seemed as though I was smack dab in the hive of the CO ERJs. . .just a bunch of those bees buzzing around. . .but I loved it. There were thousands of them. Okay, there were hundreds. Fine, there were tens. . .but still many more than I've ever seen in one place. . .




Ding! You are now free to keep supporting Frontier.
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16878 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3803 times:

Bethune left to get Bonderman off the CO board.


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User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3295 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3793 times:

"The article says that CO has agreed to extend their lease at CLE for ten years in return for certain improvements, including the 11,250 ft runway extension) promised by the city."

there you have it ladies and gents, proof positive that more int'l service is to come from CLE. Needing such a long runway, it's obvious to me that CO and Embraer has perfected the technology need to add drop tanks to the ERJ. They obviously need the longer runway to take off with the extra fuel weight...  Wow!


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3496 times:

I fail to see why someone doesn't consider CLE a hub in CLE, when that's not true. What constitutes a hub in some of your minds? Widebodies? A certain threshold of flights? A certain mix of regional/mainline? What's your criteria?

CO has more than 250 flights a day in/out of CLE. That's a significant amount of service. No, it doesn't meet the amount of service CO has in IAH and EWR, but those are larger markets, and they're strategically positioned, more than CLE, to serve international markets-EWR for Europe and IAH for Mexico and Latin America. But that doesn't mean CLE doesn't have a hub, in any stretch.

Here is video of the entire press conference held today, courtesy of WKYC-TV, the NBC affilliate in CLE.

http://www.wkyc.com/video/player.aspx?aid=7321&sid=24598&bw=


25 Jetpixx : Mayor Jane is not that shabby looking - sort of a MILF.
26 CALMSP : well the "trio" told us in IAH two weeks ago to look at more flights to AMS/CDG/MXP/FCO to enhance the Sky Team product.
27 Aa777jr : Wow. CO is making CLE a big player for one of their future hubs if it already isn't. Where does CO fly to internationally out of CLE? Cheers, AA777jr
28 Ncflyer : Why is a longer runway important to CO, isn't what they got long enough for the meager int'l service that CLE could ever expect. It sure seems to me l
29 SHUPirate1 : CO's commitment to CLE? Continental ExpressJet might have a commitment to CLE, but Continental Airlines certainly doesn't...here's a departure schedul
30 Ncflyer : wow they dumped SEA. Last year they kept it for the winter. Down to 2 to LAX. PIT still has a more substantial schedule I believe. Heck, RDU my old ho
31 Highflier92660 : Congratulations to you at Continental in negotiations with the folks at Cleveland city hall. I just read all the posts. Boy this is a tough crowd at a
32 Luv2fly : Living here in CLE I'll say it is not the perfect hub, though it is the right size for the market that we have, and bottom line is that it is remainin
33 Aeroman62 : Well, I love connecting at CLE, but I'll be the first to admit their mainline offerings are slim, and beyond an hour, an ERJ or CRJ is a miserable exp
34 MasseyBrown : SHUPirate, accidentally I'm sure, picked Wednesday, the slowest weekday in a slow time of the year, to use for displaying his CO schedule. CO has been
35 SHUPirate1 : Massey-I ALWAYS use Wednesday for comparison's sake...the reason being that most flights flown on Wednesday are also flown on the other days of the we
36 Aa777jr : doesnt CO fly CLE-LGW? AA777jr
37 Falcon84 : Massey-I ALWAYS use Wednesday for comparison's sake...the reason being that most flights flown on Wednesday are also flown on the other days of the we
38 N766UA : doesnt CO fly CLE-LGW Until the end of this month, yes. It will start up again in Spring.
39 DIA : Indeed, looks like CO is down to one mainline 733 and an ERJ-145 for the CLE-DEN &/OR DEN-CLE route. I took this route once on a 733. . .(the a/c was
40 CLEfan : I was hopeful for a flight announcement or two, but sadly it was not to be. However, CO makes most of their domestic flight announcements in the Decem
41 MasseyBrown : DIA said: and not one good viewing area that I found during my layover time. That's getting to be more and more true everywhere, it seems to me. At so
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