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New Fully Serviced Australian Airline?  
User currently offlineTravel From Australia, joined May 2001, 355 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

Has anyone ever heard of a new venture which will hopefully take place.
I dont much about it, but apparently Gold Airways may be the new Australian fully serviced domestic airline..

Love to know more about it..

http://www.flygold.com/

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User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4636 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2905 times:

That seems very embryonic, doesn't it?

It would be interesting to see how a full service airline would go in Australia, considering that Qantas has that market sewn up. Also, Qantas, far from sitting on its laurels, is upgrading the domestic full service product as well...

Could be interesting, if it gets off the ground. I somehow doubt they will find the money to do it...

Trent.



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineTravel From Australia, joined May 2001, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2893 times:

Although It would be fantastic and I like the idea of having another fully serviced airline, however I would have to agree with you ClassicLover..

User currently offlineQantasflyer From Australia, joined Mar 2004, 396 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2796 times:

Wow that would be GOLD! Another full service airline in Australia would be great, i am not too fond of the low cost carriers and much preffer traditional carriers. I would love to see Gold start operations, however i too must agree with everyone else this seems highly unlikely. I just doubt that there is enough demand for a fourth major dometsic player in the market for a population hardly exceeding 20 million.

Regards



Qantasflyer That's the spirit. The Spirit of Australia!
User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2699 times:

we simply don't have the population to support 4 national airlines... had Qantas not introduced Jetstar, then this new airline may have found things easier. Although DJ whinge moan and bitch about QF and JQ, JQ has basically meant that no other airline can enter the market leaving the QF group and DJ to basically fight it out for marketshare.

User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5245 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2691 times:

The only way a new full service airline could get of the ground and drive either JQ or DJ out of the market would be to have A LOT of financial backing (ie from a major airline)

This mob don't have that, I mean they have been trying for over 3 years to start up!


User currently offlineCorsairf/a From France, joined Oct 2000, 373 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2673 times:

It seems that is is a joke, because the translation in french, does not mean anything and is very funny. Fly is translated as the fly this little dirty insect ...

User currently offlineQantasflyer From Australia, joined Mar 2004, 396 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2643 times:

Could this be SQ's attempt to enter the Australian domestic market?

Regards



Qantasflyer That's the spirit. The Spirit of Australia!
User currently offlineAntares From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 1402 posts, RR: 39
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2313 times:

Singapore Airlines effectively did a deal with Qantas over 'on-carriage' or connecting flights that is so good it has no incentive to throw more money after the $700 million or so it has already burned on Air NZ/Ansett.

JQ has done considerable damage to Qantas and DJ yields, with Qantas admitting to a 9.6% drop in July and Virgin Blue shocking the market with a 20% drop in profits in the four months to the end of July.

But JQ is not going head to head with DJ where it does the most damage to Qantas which is the trunk line routes like SYD-MEL and SYD-Brisbane. And it appears to have driven a lot of former Qantas customers in Tasmania and the Gold and Sunshine Coasts into Virgin Blue jets, where they have discovered it is a much more comfortable experience than Jetstar, and at pretty good fares.

(The fares situation is very confusing, you can get great deals on all carriers if you haunt the websites. Really p**sses off the corporate accounts and small business types like me, because these accounts no longer deliver consistently competitive outcomes.)

Bearing in mind that all three carriers are run by pretty smart people it is safe to predict that all three may change their style of service in some manner over the next year or so.

Room for a fourth carrier just isn't there, as people have rightly noted. And you'd have to ask where they would get the necessary gates at the major airports. The new Adelaide domestic terminal is pretty shabby for REX but great for Qantas and Virgin Blue, as you'll see when it opens soon, T2 at Sydney is looking so tight they are trying to force REX out, and Qantas is dealing with its inability to sell T3 at the 'right' price to Sydney Airport, which wants to blend T2 and T3 via the horshoe shaped area that lies between them.

One things for sure, the market isn't going to back a full service carrier if it wants to have a float. They don't earn enough money, even Qantas says it is making less than an adequate return on investment, so it will have to be low cost in structure, whether it chooses to go the Virgin Blue/JetBlue route or model itself more like Ryanair/Jetstar.


User currently offlineSunnyb From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2301 times:

I don't think this is true.

I mean their web site looks like sh*t. Nothing looks professional here.


User currently offlineAussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2206 times:

This supposive dubious airline has been doing the rounds for quite a while now, it still uses the below website for recruiting and has been for some time.

http://www.pacificsouthwestengineering.com.au/

A lot on this has been reported from the Sydney Airport message board and pprune under cabincrew.



User currently offlineRyan h From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 1548 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2192 times:

From a spotters' persepective it would be nice to see a new airline, but I reckon it has as much chance as mark latham becoming prime minister.


South Australian Spotter
User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3329 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2079 times:

have heard of the proposal, and i doubt it will get off the ground.

A320 full service carrier, serving the east coast trunk routes.
these proposed start ups are a dime a dozen.

Latham didn't become prime minister, and i think this GOLD proposal has very little chance of getting off the ground


User currently offlineTravel From Australia, joined May 2001, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1918 times:

If this is was going to happen, why hasnt the media mentioned it.

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