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User currently offlineLUFC From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 80 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2073 times:

Hi, Many Thanks in advance for any information on this.

I was at Manchester this morning and watched Lady bird take off (presumably to Orlando), then she was closely followed by Hot Lips.

Have Virgin now begun the promised two flights to Orlando or was this yet another 747-400 replacement flown in from Gatwick to stand in for the much maligned leased 747-200's that have seriously seen better days and are really not fit to wear the Virgin colours. Looking at the clinb Hot Lips looked like she was empty taking off on her way back to Gatwick maybe?

I've heard that the two leases are being replaced in May 2005 with 747-400's. For me it can't come soon enough. I've had two very unpleasent experiences on these old birds - so to speak.

Any info would be appreciated.

Many Thanks.

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User currently offlineJamotcx From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1037 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2030 times:

The -400 was positioning back to London today.

At the moment VS are putting on an extra flight on Fridays to Orlando. Not sure how much longer these flights will be operating though.


Jamo


User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7359 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1962 times:
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They last til mid-November, then we should get occasional 744s in early next year to San Juan before May comes with full-time operations.

David


User currently offlineVirgincrew From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 422 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

It's true the Air Atlanta lease is up for the 747-200's and Virgin are not renewing the lease.

When the contract runs out the Manchester Orlando's will be on Gatwick 747-400's which will also be fitted with the new Upper Class Suite.

The Suite will only be in A Zone and will be fitted with an onboard bar which the Gatwick & Manchester fleet has never had before. Although Gatwick and Manchester will not have an onboard Beauty Therapist like the Heathrow fleet.

B Zone will now be Premium Economy aswell as upstairs.

Capacity will be as follows:- J Class 14 W Class 58 & Y Class 379



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User currently offlineMYT332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 71
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1877 times:

I saw G-VLIP on Friday taking off. She turned left so I assume she was off to MCO. Interesting to watch and even more interesting to see that we will be getting LGW based B744'S at MAN from next year.

Good stuff.



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User currently offlineFLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1871 times:

"When the contract runs out the Manchester Orlando's will be on Gatwick 747-400's..."

So how exactly will it work? Will the 747 ferry in from Gatwick, operate the return trip and ferry out again, with a different one coming in to operate the following day? Or will Manchester actually have a 747-400 based, to replace the current 747-200s?



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User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

I love the -200's at MAN, look very smart in Virgin colours, and they are fit to wear the Virgin Livery!
It will be nice when we do get a full-time 747-400 up here, at the moment its nice to have a different -400 every week, except we had Hot Lips last week!
Virgin start an extra Saturday service at the end of October/Start November using 747-400's, as well as the extar Friday service they are running now.

Mark



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User currently offlineVirgincrew From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 422 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

The 744 is an amazing aircraft to watch when taking off.


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User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1850 times:

Manchester will have one based 747-400 when the lease expires from Air Atlanta Europe with the two 747-200's. The extra services that are running at the moment are done by, an aircraft postioning up empty, operating the flight, and postioning back to LGW.

Mark



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User currently offlineFLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1844 times:

I see... so in that case we can refer to it as a "Manchester" 747 than at Gatwick one then - it would make it less confusing! The reference to a "Gatwick 747" was the reason I asked.

I hope the one they base is reliable, if it breaks down and they haven't got an extra one (like they have with G-VBEE and G-VSSS) there could be some awful delays, even if they could ferry in a replacement.



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User currently offlineVirgincrew From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 422 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1834 times:

Yeah,

The extra service at the moment is a Gatwick 744 and Gatwick crew.



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User currently offlineLUFC From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1793 times:

“I love the -200's at MAN, look very smart in Virgin colours, and they are fit to wear the Virgin Livery!”

Sorry but these planes are a disgrace. I've had two occasions where I've had to wait over 8 hours for replacement aircraft due to breakdowns, and the interiors are dropping to bits - PTV's not working, seats broken, and a poor sirvice by Virgin standards as well. I've also had a long wait in MCO for a door and the air conditioning to be fixed. They are not fit for a scheduled service that doesn't have imminent backup and I'm surprised that Virgin has not suffered more as a result of this.

They may look pretty painted in Virgin colours, but that's as far as it goes.


User currently offlineJRowson From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 350 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1794 times:

Does anyone know why the Virgin 742 got a water canon salute this morning on departure? This may have not been visible from the viewing park, but we saw it where we were down on the 6R touchdown point.




James Rowson. Canonite and lover of all things L. JAR Photography.
User currently offlineLUFC From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

They also had the roof hatch open waving to all the crowd. Perhaps that was the last of Ladybird at Manchester?

User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1776 times:

Does anyone know why the Virgin 742 got a water canon salute this morning on departure?
May of been for a retiring pilot or something.

LUFC - Some people just have all the bad luck, Air Atlanta are responsible for the aircraft, so that is why Virgin don't suffer.
Where did you wait 8 hours for a replacement aircraft? Usually at MAN they just use the other VS 742, or use of Air Atlanta 747's that are based at MAN.

Mark



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User currently offlineLUFC From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

I can tell you exactly when it was as there's actually a picture of Virginia Plain taking off on that very day on this website.

It was May 11th 2003 and for some reason Virginia Plain had to be flown up fron Gatwick, after they'd had No.2 engine in bits for three hours and then found out they couldn't fix it. We took off at 6:30pm (scheduled 10:25am)

I reckon the replacements would have taken longer to be get ready for flight than it would to fly one up.


User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1602 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1709 times:

from the v-flyer website, I understand that 1 x LGW B744 will be based at MAN, which will be rotated on a weekly basis, so that any maintenance issues can be carried out by Virgin at LGW.

Therefore there will not be one "specific" MAN B744, it will be one of the LGW B744's (currently 5 but increasing to 7 as LHR B744's move to LGW as A346 deliveries arrive at LHR).

Hope this helps.

Rich.


User currently offlineVSFullThrottle From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 280 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1666 times:

Hey Guys

G-VFAB will be the aircraft reconfigured (Upper Class Suite) first to operate MAN-MCO-LGW-MCO-MAN-MCO-LGW-MCO-MAN as will all LGW based 744's once retrofitted with UCS.

Regards

VSFT & VSM



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User currently offlineLapper From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 1562 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1551 times:

The leased 742's ARE fit to wear the livery as they are Ex-VS birds in the first place!

User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1529 times:

The leased 742's ARE fit to wear the livery as they are Ex-VS birds in the first place!

Glad to see someone agree's with me!! I think they look great in the Virgin Colours, love seeing them everyday! You tell they were ex-VS machine's anyway by their registrations: G-VSSS and G-VBEE, I know one day they have to go but I'll miss those classics in VS colours!

Perhaps that was the last of Ladybird at Manchester?

Why you say that? Manchester have two based 747-200's G-VSSS (Island Lady) and G-VBEE (Honey Pie)

Mark



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User currently offlineLUFC From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1430 times:

With my romantic spotters hat on I agree with both of you. A 747 in Virgin colours has a majesty about her, no more so than the old 200's based at Manchester, but from a passenger point of view they are total crap and well past their sell by date and that is a fact.

Kind Regards
JW


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