BG001 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 52 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3286 times:
I am think of QF(LAX-JFK),SV(JFK-IAD-MCO),and BA(IAH-ORD) flies domestic here in the USA. I learned about BA not having traffic rights but how about the other two? Are there any more domectic flights by any foreign airlines here in the US?
Zrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3132 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3259 times:
No foreign carriers have domestic passenger rights within the US (though there are some connecting rights. Example: I believe one can fly QF LAX-JFK, and then continue on BA to LHR. But don't quote me on this!)
There are, of course, carriers that can fly US-Canada, such as CX and LY.
Philsquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3244 times:
There are no foreign airlines that have domestic traffic rights in the US. There are exceptions. I think there is an exemption on cabatoge from ANC to to JFK. If I remember correctly either CI or KE or both have traffic rights from ANC-JFK-ANC. I don't know if the traffic rights are still in effect. However, several years ago, those airlines were given traffic rights due to the limited pax service in and out of ANC.
MasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5376 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3166 times:
There are some common instances of cabotage in the cargo world. Antonov, with their monster planes, is routinely allowed to carry super-sized cargo between US cities. In the cite below, NW is "sharing" cargo hauling with a foreign airline between ANC and another US point under certain circumstances.
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9511 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3140 times:
The law against foreign airlines carrying US passengers between domestic locatoins extends beyond the states and into territories of the US as well. I know a few years ago Asiana Airlines was fined a couple million dollars for advertising service from Saipan and Guam to the US lower 48 via SEL. ItIt was a quick way to go, but illegal. Things get very tricky in the Pacific Islands because CO has a complete monopoly and it is difficult to get around the laws (unlike WN at DAL for example, where two tickets will do you fine for the states outside the Wright Amendment).
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FlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2072 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3069 times:
QF can pick up passengers on their SYD-LAX-JFK flight at LAX who have arrived on QF from BNE, MEL or AKL and who are travelling on to JFK, and vice versa, but cannot pick passengers up who are originating in the US, i.e. to fly LAX-JFK or return. Interestingly any passengers must have cleared immingration at LAX before travelling to JFK (LAX being the point of entry), so in effect LAX-JFK is a domstic flight but obviously cannot be sold as such, being for international connecting travel only.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3066 times:
You might see a foreign airline selling codeshare tickets on a US domestic flight. The reason OZ got fined was because they were carrying US citizens between US cities. They had to pay back what they made on the US citizens on that flight. Also, the connection thing is possible, but you are being transported through the US to other countries, not actually buying travel in the US. QF, for example, can sell a stopover in LA to an Aussie customer going SYD/MEL-LAX-JFK, but cannot sell someone in the US a flight on the LAX JFK segment.
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