on the last sentence it said "The plan must have approval in both countries to go ahead." So seriously, there isn't anything big here unless New Zealand's court approve this alliance
Airbus3801 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 5 Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1438 times:
If this does go through, I wonder about how this will have an effect on the alliances of each airline. ANZ with Star and Qantas with OneWorld. Will this instigate one of the airlines leaving their alliances?
Mulder From New Zealand, joined Sep 2004, 61 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1407 times:
This can't really change anything because NZ High Court has ruled out the appeal in NZ. The merger officially came to an end a few weeks ago already. QF and NZ apparently are going to find new ways of cooperation which could involve a modified alliance.
I don't think NZ would want to leave Star. Maybe QF would consider Star remember back a few year UA or LH had tried to entice QF I don't remember exactly.
ORD2PHL From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 310 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1393 times:
I just cannot see QF leaving oneworld, as much as I am a huge *Alliance fan the agreements between QF/BA run deep; should this acquisition be approved I think Star will be without presence in this part of the world unfortunately.
Syncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 1983 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1369 times:
I thought the QF/BA ties where a little on the rocky side as of late?
BBD From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 62 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1281 times:
Whilst, legally, the way would appear to be at an end, given the recent negative decision in NZ, I would imagine that the NZ government could simply "legislate" the way clear if it wanted to. I believe that this avenue, which would probably also be applicable in Australia, had been put forward by the relevant minister in NZ in the early days of the proceedings, but had been set aside as not being the desirable way to resolve the matter.
I do not believe that, given the improved financial state of ANZ, the impetus, on the government's/majority shareholder's side, for a formal tie-up is anywhere near as strong as it was then; however, if ANZ were to suffer another downturn, resulting in the need for another capital injection, the NZ government could resurrect this potential avenue.
Lufthansa From Christmas Island, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 3074 posts, RR: 10 Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1224 times:
Most governments try to stay long and far from using legislation for such business purposes.
To do so, usggests that not only are you playing favorites, democracy breaks down because certain companies enjoy the support of the government whilest any others, or potential others, do not. It is viewed as an area of gross inefficiency and recieved very very poorly by world capital markets (that is may create more damage than good through loss of international confidence in your economy).
The other question is, any such legislation may have the potential to be struck down by the high court, as it may prove discriminatory in nature.
Generally it is a hotspot governments try and say far away from... there is too much potential to make MP's look currupt and this may cost them the next election. If the couts say no under existing laws, i doubt your gonna see the laws changed for just one company. your going to need to have them changed for the whole economy.
Bluewhite From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2001, 330 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1188 times:
Well, that would certainly lock up Australasia for them wouldn't it (both NZ/QF), with really just Virgin to compete realistically, and AO and the new start-up Jetstar Asia will compete ferociously in that segment. Good luck to the competition and also the consumers....
I can also see them being courted by both alliances and ultimately, it will be the long-term benefits gained ( dollars and cents ) that will determine the future direction of this entity, and which one it eventually joins.
Bill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8320 posts, RR: 9 Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 948 times:
they probably have in house lawyers on the payroll... but I would suspect that some kind of outside lawyers were brought in who specialise in this kind of thing.
UA744KSFO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 860 times:
BA just sold its share in QF. However, this doesn't mean that ties between the two are bad.
As to QF joining Star, I would say it would be a good move for them, but almost too good. They would be partners with SA)">UA and AC (eliminating all competition on direct or 1-stop service to North America), and they would be partners with SQ and TG, meaning that there would be no serious competition to Southeast Asia. Africa would be unaffected since they already code share with SA. The major benefits would be an expanded European network via BKK and SIN (code sharing on TG and SQ) without having to go all the way to LHR and double back.
As to the merger of QF and NZ, I don't see it being resurrected. The NZ government is not budging on the issue, and as long as that happens, the merger is impracticable.
JoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 830 times:
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SQ and QF wouldn't dominate Australia to South East Asia if QF joins star. BA has direct flights SIN-SYD and MEL. Also EK operates some flights SIN-Australia. Malaysia has a lot of routes from KUL to Australia and so has QX. SO I don't see a competition problem with SQ and QF both in Star.
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