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UK Members: Couple Criticisng SXM On TV  
User currently offlineSQNo1 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 687 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3123 times:

It was Holidays Uncovered Programme which finished at 21:00 BST. A couple booked two weeks in SXM 190 yards from the runway at the unsupriseingly named Maho Beach hotel. Paid £3000 for two weeks and did'nt realise that aircraft would be flying past their window.
What Idiots!

Your'e thoughts please
SQno1


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User currently offlineAlcregular From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3118 times:

I just posted this in non-av. Im sure it would say it was next to the airport. I can't believe they sent the holiday to Richard Branson and got a full refund. This is ridicoulous.

User currently offlineVisityyj From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3100 times:

Not idiots at all !
If you go to the Maho Beach Casino & Hotel website, you will notice there is a complete lack of any mention of the airport. And all the photos are careful to avoid showing the proximity to the approach/runway. Airplane geeks are a tiny minority (who do know about Maho Beach), and would be the only ones NOT likely upset by planes unexpectedly flying past the bedroom window  Smile


User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3085 times:

not at all, i think R.B. shud have refunded them, Virgin did make a mistake on the map, places the airport further away than it was. I totally think Virgin Hols do owe them, ans the fact that they refunded the couple, AND withdrew that hotel from their brochure proves the couple are well entitled to a refund. THe brochure said the airport was 3.6km away (argh-i h8 measurements for distance!) whichi think is a coupel of miles, not a coupld of hundred yrds!!

User currently offlineSQNo1 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 687 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3080 times:

I can't find SXM on the virgin holidays web site.Which airline do they use to get there?

User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 44
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3063 times:

Possibly VS flights to Antigua and then inter-island flight to SXM?


Like a fine wine, one gets better with age.
User currently offlineMYT332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3052 times:

Virgin don't go to SXM now, mainly becuase of that video I think the programme said.


One Life, Live it.
User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3052 times:

yeah, cos the couple used a VS earplugs from the amienity kit, but they said VS dnt go to SXM

User currently offlineAlcregular From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

I've just been on Virgin holidays website and they are still selling holidays to SXM, only they show it as Saint Martin, not the correct spelling.

User currently offlineMYT332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3014 times:

Well that programme lied to us then, LOL! *grumbles*


One Life, Live it.
User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 44
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3014 times:

Saint Martin I understand is the spelling for the French half of the island, the Dutch half of the island being spelt Saint Maarten. Maybe all the Virgin Holidays hotels are now in the French part?


Like a fine wine, one gets better with age.
User currently offlineStealthpilot From India, joined May 2004, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2996 times:

SXM is known to all us plane/airport lovers. But to others, well, I can’t say I know too much about museums or other stuff (get my point). So in response SQno1, I don’t think it’s foolish for those guys to have not known the airport was there. But I agree with what you were getting at. For me, you and fellow airliners people it's hard to complain about being to close to a runaway ………. the idea of not liking it is ridiculous. If I got a room with a view I would love it!!!!!


eP007
User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2939 times:

Boy, it's only 25 minutes since the programme finished and already there is a thread with 11 replies!

The couple said it was a holiday from hell and only suitable for plane spotters or the hard of hearing! I would just love to go there and be holding on to that fence whilst an 747 or A340 was revving for take off!

Virgin said they no longer send clients to the Mahe Beach Hotel. They must have cancelled the contract but if there are still rooms available and Virgin is committed to paying for them, what chance is there that a.net members can get a discounted holiday?




MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
User currently offlineGeoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2931 times:

I don't think I've EVER read a brochure that advertises the fact that the hotel is next to an airport. Doesn't make commercial sense. Yes, this couple were walking into something blind, but not necessarily mislead. Depends how they measure distance - distance to the terminal, which I believe is near the far end of the runway - ie couple of miles away?

Mind you, paying £3000 for a holiday is somewhat silly. Three minutes on Expedia found £2400 for a 2-week December break for two at the Maho Beach. Ah, the excessive mark-up costs of travel agents!

Geoff M.


User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2923 times:

Hehehehe what fools  Laugh out loud

They knew they were going to a tiny island, where did they think the planes would land?! They said themselves that they knew there was an airport there.


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User currently offlineLj From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2893 times:

Saint Martin I understand is the spelling for the French half of the island, the Dutch half of the island being spelt Saint Maarten. Maybe all the Virgin Holidays hotels are now in the French part?


In Dutch the island is called "Sint Maarten" or "St. Maarten". SXM is located in the Dutch part of the island


User currently offlineFJWH From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 968 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

What is that couple talking about? It's not like freakin' O'hare there.
How many plane's take off and land there very day on avarage?

But well, if you don't like plane as we do, those planes are a pain in the ass.



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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2815 times:

"They knew they were going to a tiny island, where did they think the planes would land?!"

That would require quite a bit more common sense than the average person possesses. Let's face it, you wouldn't have thought of that if you weren't an aviation enthusiast already familiar with SXM.


LY744.



Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1184 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

I sometimes wonder if it isn't the "dumb tourists" who are smarter than some of the posters on a.net. A person from England buys a holiday to the Caribbean and the LAST thing they think about is the possibility of having wide bodied jets landing next to their exotic hotel. I have researched SXM extensively (we want to go there next) and the Maho Beach Hotel's website and brochures say nothing about the location next to the runway. If you look at the map, you see that the airport is on the other side of the beach, but no one can tell what distance that is and, I think, people would assume that a hotel would not be next to a beach. So come on, give these people a break.
Since "the customer is always right", they are entitled to a refund. Besides, SRB is too smart to get bad publicity for a situation like this.
FLY2LIM



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User currently offlineTs-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3451 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2553 times:


Is the traffic so important at SXM so that it could disturb ?!


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

Oh please - typical Brit holiday makers, always whinging about something. Like its SO many planes - they get what 3 or 4 widebodies per day in SXM, if that - plus some jets from the US, and the odd puddle jumper that these days make virtually no noise at all. If I was SRB I'd have told them to FRO.

User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

Maybe the US we sue a lot not because we have more people who bitch about things frivolously, but becase we have less executives willing to cave into them.

User currently offlineGeoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2390 times:

Actually, Brits sue more per person than in the US (apparently). Could be to do with the huge rash of "no win no fee" ads we've had over the last few years. What they don't tell you is the huge insurance fee you have to hand over before they consider your case, which in many cases is more than the money actually received from any compensation. Luckily I'm not one of the many who has been caught out by this scam.

Geoff M.


User currently offlineFoxiboy From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 208 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

JGPH1A AND THR FRENCH DONT MOAN YEAH RIGHT. Try doing a flight with french passengers god they moan about everything!!!!!!!!  Wink/being sarcastic

User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2331 times:

If I remember correctly, the woman tourist did say that the "transfer time" from the airport to the hotel was stated in the Virgin brochure at 5 minutes. Surely that alone would mean that the hotel is within the vicinity of the airport so noise could be expected. Where exactly did they expect to be within 5 minutes from leaving the airport? A quiet paradise where the only noise would be the birds chirping in the trees?

The trouble with many Brit tourists is that they rely too much on brochures and other people, hence the popularity in "tour packages".




MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
25 Horus : lol...I watched the programme too. I was like 'WHAT ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT YOU SILLY WOMAN....YOU'RE IN AVIATION HEAVEN!!!!!' Seriously though, loo
26 Iowaman : SXM/TNCM Arrivals Today: San Juan, PR 354 02:50 PM Arrived San Juan, PR 356 07:54 PM Scheduled Paris Air France 488 09:55 AM Landed San Juan, PR Ameri
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