Nealcg From United States of America, joined May 2004, 141 posts, RR: 2 Posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2493 times:
Over the last 3 years I have fown both DL and AA from SEA to DFW (the only 2 non-stop carriers). The ususal fare has been $300-350. Now that DL is ending this route on 12-1-04 I noitced all non-stop fares (now an AA monopoly) has jumnped to $600.
Thats more expensive than DFW-LHR!!.
WN could do a lot of business and get AA out of the extortion business.
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Jr From United States of America, joined May 1999, 970 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2361 times:
WN should add service to DFW not because AA is being extortionist, but because they can make money if they decide to start.
If they are willing to start up PHL, I don't see why they wouldn't be looking at starting up DFW. All indications so far are that they are looking at it very seriously, and might just start up. I certainly hope they do.
p.s: DFW-LHR for under $600 (mostly even under $500) is usually only during off-peak. In summer the fares are well over that mark.
Ssides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2284 times:
I've lived in this area for several years, and I still don't see WN starting DFW service soon. I know they're looking at it, but at the same time they've said their interest is minimal. Their DAL operation continues to be extraordinarily profitable -- I just don't see them diverting valuable aircraft to a new project like this.
The wild card in this issue is AirTran. AirTran has said they plan on beefing up DFW service, but it's still unclear as to how much. I don't think AirTran scares WN as much as JetBlue does (that's the reason they launched PHL, IMHO). If you look at the route map, they don't compete all that much. Still, if WN thinks AirTran might add many new western cities (e.g. PHX, SLC, SAN, SFO, SEA, etc.) from a DFW hub, they might want to move in quickly to get in on the action, much like they did at PHL.
Another issue is how much the people here in the area want WN at DFW. On one hand, people in Dallas like the convenience of flying from DAL. On the other hand, they probably would like more options beyond the Wright-Shelby states. Ft. Worth people, though, are much more loyal to AA, due to its HQ being there. I'd bet most Ft. Worth citizens know an AA employee (or ex-employee), which can play a big role in brand loyalty. Of course, if WN came in offering $200 round-trips everywhere, I doubt that loyalty would go very far.
We'll have to see. Personally, I think WN would rather grow elsewhere.
Swadispatcher From United States of America, joined May 2004, 427 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1996 times:
From what I understand, AirTran wants to put a crew base here at DFW. I have a feeling that they would significantly boost flights if given the chance..
Hence the reason we are looking at it so carefully.
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