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Air NZ Voted Best Pacific Airline....again  
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3517 times:
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For the 6th time in a row Air NZ has been voted the Pacific's best airline at the Asia Travel awards. This award comes a few weeks after Air NZ was voted the Worlds Best Long-Haul Airline.

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_travel_story_skin/453096%3fformat=html

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User currently offlineAerohottie From Australia, joined Mar 2004, 796 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3466 times:

Well done Air NZ!!!

I wonder how long NZ will hold this position if stupid decisions like the recent saab replacement occur on a regular basis???

Congrats and well done... for now the flag carrier does us proud.



What?
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3441 times:
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I wonder how long NZ will hold this position if stupid decisions like the recent saab replacement occur on a regular basis???
How was the saab replacement with Dash 8s a stupid decision? NZ wanted new planes and not second hand. The Dash 8 Q300 seats 50 passengers and this will work well for NZ because domestic travel has sky rocketed since Domestic Express was introduced.

I don't understand why the Dash 8 decision was a stupid decision Confused


User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3423 times:

The dash decision is a very wise one, especially in times when fuel skyrockets. The dash's are very economical airplanes for up to 1 1/2 hours flights.

User currently offlineFlyboy1980 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2003, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

I think Aerohottie has a point - I can't understand why they didn't get ATR-42s. I'm sure ATR would have been very keen to see more of their a/c in Air NZ colours.

Anyway, well done to Air NZ.

Being a former employee I am slightly biased, but they are a great airline!  Smile


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3358 times:
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Some of the reasons that I can think of for NZ not going with the ATR-42 is because it might be expensive on fuel, for its size and passenger numbers and the ATR-42 could be expsensive in maintaince. NZ would only purchase aircraft that they believe will work for them and have been proven to work. The Q300 is newer then the ATR42 so it has more and better technology then the ATR42 so the Q300 would be more nicer on fuel.

User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7084 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3301 times:

I'll keep out of the regional aircraft debate, but well done to NZ. I hope their recent good performances keep on going. They have done the country proud.

User currently offlineKim777fan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 510 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3152 times:

I've been looking at New Zealand as a "must" destination within the next 5 years. Now I know the airline I will take will be Air New Zealand.

And the decision to replace the Saabs with the dash 300 was an excellent one which will only help keep Air New Zealand among the very top carriers, as was their stellar decision to acquire the 7E7 and the 777.


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3013 times:
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Kim777fan

When are you hoping to fly to New Zealand?


User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7084 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2980 times:

Try flying after next year, then you will be sure that the NZ 744s will have full IFE systems.

User currently offlineNz1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2247 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2867 times:
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I think Aerohottie has a point - I can't understand why they didn't get ATR-42s. I'm sure ATR would have been very keen to see more of their a/c in Air NZ colours.

If you saw how many engine changes etc we currently do on the ATR-72's you would understand the reasoning behind getting Q300's. In my opinion it was a VERY wise choice.

NZ1


User currently offlineSunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 4847 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2809 times:

NZ1............

Both aircraft have PW Canada engines.The ATR72 appears to have 127 series engines and the Q300 123 series. Is there a reason why the 123 series is expected to be more reliable?


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2790 times:
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NZ1
Is it true that the ATR42 is a problem aircraft? How many times are the ATR72 engines changed per aircraft?


User currently offlineRongotai From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 477 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2750 times:

It is interesting - and I write as an Air NZ long haul passenger since 1968, and domestic since NAC merged in 1979 - that I find flying AirNZ domestically is an even BETTER experience since they stopped serving meals.

Full meal service to 100 passengers on a 28 minute sector WLG-CHC was totally disruptive as people rushed around frenetically, leant over you, asked what wine you wanted and grabbed your tray as the undercarriage was coming down.

Now these flights are havens of calm where I can do a little work if I want to or just meditate, and a much more relaxed cabin crew are noticeably more pleasant - which is a much greater contribution to my well being than frantic food and slightly frazzled staff.

I suspect this latter point must be more important than we realise given that Air NZ is scoring so well despite the current behind the market IFE and seating on international. Mind you, the A320 cabins are as good as it gets outside of a sleeper bed.


User currently offlineFlyboy1980 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2003, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2747 times:

I used to be cabin crew for Mount Cook Airline, who operate the ATR-72.

I don't recall anyone within the airline, pilots included, mentioning a problem with engine reliability.

I found the ATR-72 to be extremely reliable, I can only recall about 5 or 6 instances in a 1.5 year period when I had a duty cancelled or changed due to a/c problems.


User currently offlineNz1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2247 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2649 times:
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There woul;d be 1 engine change per month on average.

NZ1


User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2612 times:

Ahh yes, I remember the TTY messages coming through each morning


DUE 2x ATR U/S PLUS MY SPARE...

DUE ATR MUTINY IN NSN..

DUE AT7 U/S IN ROT & ZQN..




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User currently offlineNz1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2247 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2539 times:
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Haha,

TG992 that is funny, but true. I am not aware what the engine type on the Q300 is, but if it is the same variant as the AT7's we are in for a costly exercise.

I know for a fact that in August and September, the engine change rate was nearing 1 per fortnight for a while. I personally can't wait till we ditch them, though we have a 10 year lease, so it will be a while.

NZ1


User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7084 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2536 times:

Aernt NZ ordering another A725?

User currently offlineRichardJF From New Zealand, joined Mar 2001, 792 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2436 times:

When they replace the 733 on domestic would they look at the Embraer 190 instead of A319.

User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2422 times:
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ZKSUJ
Yes NZ Link have ordered another ATR72, it will be delivered about November.

RichardJF
It would be A319 or A320s as NZ have got about 15 options on the A320 family


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