GLA MD11 From France, joined Mar 2000, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1679 times:
From your list, I have only taken AF and CO, not KL. My opinion is that it depends on the aircraft: avoid the AF 744 if you can. CO 764 and 772 are great. AF 772 are good too (AF 343 is, in my opinion, less comfortable than the 772). I am looking forward flying the AF 773ER some day.
Baw716 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2045 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1621 times:
AF-IFE..if 777 or A340, then IFE in back of seat. 747s are being refit with new seats and IFE but nowhere near done, so probably no IFE if you get 747. Seat pitch 32" generally, some seats are 31.5". Seat width: 17" on 747, 18" on 777 and 17.5" on A340.
KL-IFE: MD11 yes, 743-no, 767-no. Seat pitch: 31.5-32". Better on 767 than on MD11/743.
NW: IFE-A330 only. Seat pitch 31.5" Seat width: 17.5" (except far back, then only 17".
Of all, AF 777 is best for comfort and for food. KL/NW could be hit or miss, depending on which airline is operating the flight, and aircraft type.
CO 764 and 762 have excellent Economy seats, 32", but 18" wide seats plus good size IFE in the back of the seat. Service is good, meal is average, but not horrible.
If you were not flying CO, take the AF 777 if you can.
Have a good trip
David L. Lamb, fmr Area Mgr Alitalia SFO 1998-2002, fmr Regional Analyst SFO-UAL 1992-1998
Mats From Israel, joined Jul 2003, 655 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1594 times:
Air France. No question.
If you must fly in Economy, Air France is the best you will find.
I've only had very positive experiences with their cabin crew. And the food can't be beat. It's not luxuriously comfortable and the food isn't brilliant, but certainly edible. The cabins are clean and attractive, most with in-seat video. Beer and wine are available free of charge.
If you're headed to Vienna or can transit Vienna, I would strongly endorse Austrian Airlines. The crews can be snippy, but the food, seat comfort, and entertainment are excellent.
bmi is also a good option. I've never flown aboard bmi, but I've heard only glowing reports about their Transatlantic service.
SAS has drastically reduced its catering (no choice of meals!) but the A330s have in-seat video and Copenhagen has (I think) the best hub in Europe.
Ramerinianair From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1428 times:
Thanks for the info! Any other experiences are more thwn welcome!
I generally lean toward the european airlines with alliances toward CO/DL when going cross the atlantic. They seem to offer a better product, they give amenity kits and free liquor!
Austrian was an option but no FF mile transfer to CO or DL.
N1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 28855 posts, RR: 74
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1304 times:
KL no longer flies the 743, in fact their last 747 classic was a 742SUD. They have only 2 pilot A/C now. AF's food rep is second to none, CO has great comfort and KL good service. They are all good carriers, so congrats on having so many alliance choices.
Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss