Accargo From Canada, joined Sep 2004, 610 posts, RR: 8 Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 28867 times:
Speculation is that the 767-300 (fin639) which is now in AMA will arrive at 10:00 on Oct19th in YYZ for the initial unveiling, then fly to YUL for a 14:30 unveiling there, and on Oct 20th it will fly to YVR for a 10:00 show for the YVR employee's. There are apparantly other announcements to be made as well on these dates(new uniforms,routes etc). More info about the 2 day roadshow is expected later today.
AvroArrow From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 1040 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 28365 times:
Just off the top of my head I think the current scheme must be around 10yrs old or pretty close to that. I'm certain that someone more knowlegable than me will gladly shoot me down for even daring to guess though. I've never been a huge fan of the current scheme, but hopefully they use the "Tango tail" as part of the new scheme.
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FriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4007 posts, RR: 6 Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 28113 times:
Will cost alot for um to repaint the fleet! (how much?)
As mentioned in many other threads on UA's new livery, it shouldn't cost any more to paint the aircraft with a new color scheme than it does now. All aircraft are repainted during their heavy maintenance checks ("D" check), as they must be stripped of their paint to check for cracks and fractures. As long as AC doesn't use a super complicated livery with lots of colors, the cost difference won't be significant. Though I doubt it will be any cheaper, look at what they have now.
Samurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2451 posts, RR: 5 Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 26863 times:
I think I remember that AC's current colour scheme came out in 1994, so it's about 10-11 years old now.
I also think AC's going to want to go for something other than a totally "Eurowhite" colour scheme, as I have a feeling it appears to be heading for a radical image makeover in not only the colour scheme, but also service and other things. And this is regardless of whether or not it just got out of CCAA status - sometimes one has to spend money to make money. Many corporations, including airlines, are very well aware of this.
Awschucksflyer From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 150 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 26438 times:
A new scheme?!? This is news to me!!! When are the unveilings taking place? Does anyone have a link to possible designs? It would interesting to see what some people have put together as far as liveries go.
FLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 12 Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 26173 times:
I was able to dig up a copy of Horizons (AC's internal Newsletter) dated December 1, 1993, the day on which Air Canada launched its current corporate identity. The initital strategy was to sever the ties in which consumers identified AC as a crown corporation. The then new identity was to strongly link Air Canada to Canada, the country, and reflect the most positive imageds of Canada itself (hospitable, spacious, state-of-the-art, peaceful and diverse).
Was unable to find it through search, but a recent posting illustrated an artists rendering of an aircraft with shades of emerald green, reds, oranges, which has been rumored to be the choice or close to it. Anybody have that link??
Olympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 8 Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 26117 times:
I think the first appearance of the current c/s was around December 1993. I have photos dated April 1994 of an A320, a B762 and a DC-9 in the new c/s. I believe it was 1998 when the repainting was complete.
Jmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1296 posts, RR: 8 Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 25902 times:
If any of the British/European readers have got the latest Airliner World (November) they have a pic in there (page 16). They state its one of many ideas released internally by the company.
Its very Eurowhite (not that theres anything wrong with that!). It has a green tail, with green lettering in a pretty rubbish font.... the maple leaf is diagonal on the tail and extends to the fuselage in a range of green/white/red/orange/yellow stripes. The maple leaf is also on the fuselage behind the lettering. Its not a very nice scheme really, prefer the current one.
Also, like it said, its one of a number of schemes released internally, and the fact that a magazine has got hold of it suggests it won't be the final one as I guess thats being stictly embargoed until its launch....
Accargo From Canada, joined Sep 2004, 610 posts, RR: 8 Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 25274 times:
The pic of the 747 is not the new colour scheme, it was a creation of some amateur on another website, and last I heard he wishes he'd copyrighted the thing. It's been floating around the net for a month now. This info has already been posted here in another thread.
Awschucksflyer From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 150 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 24139 times:
I kinda like that illustration of a "possible" livery. Although I am someone who does like change. However, I am hoping for a scheme that will be created by the same people who created Aeroflot's current scheme.
Where is the a.net thread that has already posted regarding the same topic as this thread? I would like to read what people wrote there.
25 AirbusfanYYZ: It was deleted for some reason... I had done some sample AC liveries on it too! Oh well. It must have degenerated into some political mudslinging. Che
26 A340600: It looks like a backpackers airline! Sam
27 Lucky727: Whoa - is that ever gross! I think that's an someone just playing around - in any case, a real proof of concept comp would have to look a lot more pol
28 Yyz717: In any case, the 744s will all be out of service before this rolls out, right? That's correct Lucky. Unfortunately. It looks like a backpackers airlin
29 Crj 900: I like this one the best http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/search/photo_search.php?id=00003300
30 Blackhawk144: News to me as well!! That's cool, but to be honest, I don't think the one they have is bad...I like the tail, and the font, but other than that it cou
31 Noise: I actually like the current livery. Although it is Eurowhite, it is recognizable and simple. But a new livery, one with colour along the fuselage, wou
32 BlueDuck: "It was deleted for some reason... I had done some sample AC liveries on it too! Oh well. It must have degenerated into some political mudslinging." .
33 KCmike: They oughta keep their livery the way it is. I personally think the plane white looks profesional. I love the current AC colors and will be sad when t
34 FlyinTLow: quick question (pardon my ignorance on this): Why are those liveries referred to as Euro-White liveries? Because many airlines in Europe rely on it? O
35 Lufthansa: FlyinTLow Eurowhite referes to the liveries that feature all white paint basically. This scheme was introduced to the world by Air France in 1974 and
36 Aircellist: (about Eurowhite and othe white planes...) Ah, those all white planes... Three reasons to dislike them: -They are so boring! -They make the fuselage l
37 Connector4you: YYZ Hmm....anyone who put all their investments in old AC stock could only travel as a backpacker now anyway..... That's very true . . . backpackers e
38 BO__einG: Lets see Air Canada adopt a TUI style livery.. Wow that would be something. OVerall, surprising news and hopefully the wait will be worth it. My predi
39 Voodoo: One might think that the Star Alliance carriers would slowly adopt a common theme. If so, then the last change, at UAL, should be an indicator. Howeve
40 777ER: New colour scheme. This is news to me also. When was this discusses on a.net? Hope its a little bit more colourful
41 AWspicious: YYZ717; I think you should quit your day job and embark on a career in stand-up comedy. You certainly have a way with one-liners (Although, I suspect
42 Aviasian: I don't think Star Alliance members will ever come to a certain co-ordinated look. And just as well too. Membership in an alliance is something that m
43 Duke: The current livery is now almost 11 years old. I remember well when it was launched in December 1993. I saw my first example (as I recall, an Air Cana
44 Voodoo: Still no news on the air canada site, re: news/media section, about any branding announcements or livery change presentations.
45 ChrisA330: Voodoo: The annoucements will begin in YYZ (GTAA Hanger) and YUL(AC Line Maintenance Hanger) on Oct 19th, and in YVR Oct 20th There will be events on
46 Miamix707: Last aircraft I ever saw in old colors were A320s and DC9s. in late 97/early 98. I hate the all-white look. It's dull and boring. And the red maple le
47 Baldguy: Actually, green is not an unlikely choice for the new c/s. One thing AC has to consider is that they are an airline for all Canada, and there is still
48 Samurai 777: There's confirmation of what some people have suspected with the rebranding that's under wraps. Two 767-300s are reportedly in a hangar in Amarillio,
49 Cessnapimp: I'm surprised; the thing is being kept well under wraps and there doesn't seem to be one spyshot anywhere. Bah, within 4 days there will be shots of
50 Samurai 777: ^ That wouldn't surprise me one bit at all if someone did manage to leak a pic or two. But I think that it's likely that security at AMA could be very
51 Yyz717: tually, green is not an unlikely choice for the new c/s. Maybe it will be yellow all over. To reflect the spineless AC mgmt. Hopefully AC will not hav
52 Voodoo: Well dig this crazy scheme which was a contender the last time:
53 WJA73G: Its like Air Canada and ZIP had a baby! WJA73G
54 Cessnapimp: More realistically: can anyone find the flt# for the ferry flight? That would be... um interesting! Geez... anyone to bet it'll make a flaps up and ar
55 RCS763av: I think its very nice that AC changed their livery. The 4 times I have been to YYZ it is really dull...those white birds are very boring.
56 Captaingomes: lol Greg! I'll definitely be checking flytecomm to see what time the aircraft arrive. I also want to see if I can find the arrival time for the Embrae
57 Slawko: FYI the Antonov that was in last wee brought the wings and a fuselage section of an Embraer...maybe they are shipping them in piece by piece as each c
58 Connector4you: RCS763av . . . The 4 times I have been to YYZ it is really dull...those white birds are very boring. As long as AC’s management can get away with a
59 Ba319-131: The 2 763's gone for re-paint are:- C-GGFJ & C-FXCA
60 RCS763av: Of course they dont have to do a scheme with 50 colors and sparkly golden lines! But that white is really dull...
61 Samurai 777: According to AC Horizons Online, the internal AC site for employees (see link at the bottom of this post), it turns out that an EMB-170 is going on di
62 Slawko: Really put YUL in its place ah ??? HAHAHAHA Here comes the flack....
63 ACB777: Will AC also be introducing PTVs on the 763 being painted in the new livery?
64 FLYACYYZ: ACB777 The exterior paint job is step one on these two aircraft. Interior retrofits including new colours, lie flat seats in J/C, and PTV's throughout
65 AirbusfanYYZ: FLYACYYZ, Do you know if this means that the two 763s will only re-enter service after the interior retrofit? Cheers, Kaz
66 Cessnapimp: Hey Guys, Guess I went outside for a smoke at the right time. The EMB-170 just landed on 24R or L at 12:30. See ya's Greg
67 Accargo: There's a rumour floating around YYZ ramp that a 767 landed in the middle of the night Sunday/Monday and was towed quickly inside the GTAA hangar. Sec
68 Cessnapimp: From what I understand, there are two 67's painted, each respectively going direct to YUL and the other to YYZ from Amarillo, Texas. Then one of them
69 Yyz717: What we need is an intrepid AMA or YYZ spotter to release a photo ahead of tomorrow! Guess I went outside for a smoke at the right time. The EMB-170 j
70 Boeing757/767: Here's the advisory from AC: http://biz.yahoo.com/cnw/041018/e_aircan_advis_newera_1.html
71 FLYACYYZ: AIRBUSFANYYZ - Given the dire widebodied aircraft shortage, the 763's will be returned to revenue service immediately. Once contracts have been secure
72 Yyz717: Given the dire widebodied aircraft shortage AC does not have a "dire" widebody shortage. If it did, it would not be retiring 2 744's next week and par
73 Fallingeese: I am guessing that after the 20th the planes will be flying their regular routes. Does anyone know what the schedule is for those aircraft?