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Air Zimbabwe Into SIN/PEK & HRE - Australia Flts  
User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3208 times:

In an old Air Zimbabwe schedule I have seen flights from HRE to PER and SYD operating with 744. Checking an old OAG I have seen, that Qantas used to fly into Zimbabwe earlier, combining the HRE flights with JNB. What kind of people did they target and how have the loads been on flights from/to HRE?

Another thing, why does UM fly into Singapore and Beijing? There are flights loaded in the CRS from 15NOV04. What are they doing there? Chinese investment in Zimbabwe?


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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3117 times:

And that justifies to operate a twice weekly HRE-SIN-PEK flight? I'm pretty sure UM would have also a little interest in having routes with a certain yield/clf.


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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3107 times:

Sorry, but does anything make economic sense in Zimbabwe??

 Sad

UM will operate wherever Mugave tells them to do so...Probably next flight they will start will be to KRT (Khartoum)...


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8467 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2967 times:
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Qantas only flew to HRE to get round the apartheid era ban on flights to South Africa.


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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2870 times:

What does a Australia - South Africa flight via HRE make different than a non-stop flight?


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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2866 times:

Andz:

You're right! At the time of parteit SA would fly to Taipei (one of the few places they could lan)...of course, Taipei's regime would stand by any country stating that Taipei was not part of continental China....nowadays, following economic logic and not political games, SA has flights to HKK and not Taipei....



User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2855 times:

Do I understand that correctly, that Qantas ONLY flew to HRE before 1994 and never operated flights into South Africa during apartheid?

The flights I was refering to have been around 1998 operating as Australia-HRE-JNB-Australia.

Hardiwv
You have a valid point with Mugabe but somehow I'm pretty sure, that Air Zimbabwe needs to have a bit of management. If they run out of money, Mugabe can tell them many things, but they won't be able to fly.



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User currently offlineBlooBirdie From Lesotho, joined Sep 2003, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2850 times:

I have heard QF ploughed quite a bit of money into safety equipment at HRE during the relatively brief time they were forbidden to fly into JNB by the Australian government. This may explain why they were reluctant to give it up.

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8467 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2529 times:
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Swissgabe Australia was one of the most vehement opponents to apartheid, but there were direct flights between Australia and South Africa in the old days. The anti-apartheid movement really stepped up their squeeze in the early 80s, which soon saw the end of flights to many of SAA's destinations such as the US and Australia. SAA's flights to the US were stopped in 1986 and to Australia in 1987.

I'm pretty sure that Qantas operated to South Africa prior to the switch to Harare but I can't find any information about when.

The abovementioned flights to Taipei started in 1980.



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

Re: At the time of parteit SA would fly to Taipei (one of the few places they could land)

SA continued to operate flights to HKG after the TPE route started.

QF operated a weekly 74L then 743 then 744 service to HRE (on Sundays, IIRC) via PER. SAA laid on an A300 from JNB to HRE to meet up with it for the pax and cargo transferring to/from SA (slightly ironic). The Zimbabwe government guaranteed the sale of I think half the plane, in order to persuade QF to operate the service at all, but in the end it was used mostly by traffic too and from SA. When sanctions against SA were lifted, QF switched to a round robin SYD-PER-HRE-JNB-PER-SYD service in conjunction with SYD-PER-JNB, I seem to recall, then canned the HRE stop completely and just flew SYD-PER-JNB.

UM will be flying HRE-SIN-PEK twice weekly (Mondays and Fridays) using B767-200's. They also appear to have switched their bi-weekly FRA service to MUC instead.


User currently offlineFlymunich From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2354 times:

First flights on route HRE-MUC-LGW Dec. 2.
Actuall Air Zimbabwe only flying to Gatwick in europe.


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