Jfkaua From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1000 posts, RR: 3 Posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 8941 times:
Just saw this on tv here.. figured i'd post it...They said that Edward's aircraft experienced a problem with a generator on the take off roll and it was aborted. anyone know exactly what happened? They showed the aircraft on the tarmac... looked like a 727
Pilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 8558 times:
Here's the flight info. I had it posted in a different thread but I guess it got deleted.
Isitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 26 Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 8429 times:
Sounds like compressor snarl....the engine quit..happened alot on three holers.
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Jjbiv From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8048 times:
You must have forgotten that facts simply don't matter when a democrat is being discussed in the media
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7 Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7980 times:
So I take it Edwards is going to be coming in to Daytona on another aircraft Sunday
Acidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1855 posts, RR: 10 Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7782 times:
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Maybe his aircraft will just never get repaired and never go anywhere and he can just walk to his next stop. I love how the Dems claim to be "of the people" yet gallivant across America in their own private jets like they are taking the subway around town.
Garnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5244 posts, RR: 55 Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7750 times:
I love how the Dems claim to be "of the people" yet gallivant across America in their own private jets like they are taking the subway around town.
This is normal in campaigns. If memory serves, Bush did the same thing in '00. And hell, he gets to use the executive fleet for his campaign stops. It's hardly a partisan thing.
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L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7708 times:
The pilot was committed to take-off before he was against it.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
Cannikin From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 98 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7671 times:
Perhaps they found WMD's on board....Nope not there either?
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7596 times:
**""I love how the Dems claim to be "of the people" yet gallivant across America in their own private jets like they are taking the subway around town.""**
Not like I like either one of these guys but Bush is going around campaigning on Air Force One at Tax Payer expense. I am sure fuel costs for flying it around aren't coming out of his pocket
KITH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 359 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 7488 times:
Tho im a bigt kerry supporter, Bush should be in AF1, he is the commander in chief and needs the added safety/options. As for dems galavanting around? Its part of the game, if you want to win you have to spend like a winner. Tho bush is supposed to reimburse for campaign trips, they never do (clinton, bush, regan etc). -Matt in KITH
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 7421 times:
Actually HlywdCatft, the campaign is required to reimburse the Air Force, the equivelt of what commercial travel would have cost.
The theory being is that the president shouldn't be penalized for using an expensive military airplane like the VC-25 at the insistance of the secret service and to make sure all the communications he needs for his job are with him, but at the same time, he does need to pay for his travel.
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Jcded From Switzerland, joined Jan 2004, 211 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 7401 times:
I believe Bush is entitled to AF1 but I believe that if the trip is for campaign purposes then there should be some contribution from his re-election campaign coffers, its a hidden subsidy for re-election.
Jonathan L From United States of America, joined May 2001, 169 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6879 times:
Acidradio.... When you run for president or vice president, you fly in your own plane. If Kerry and Edwards were flying around on Southwest or riding Amtrak, you'd be laughing at them for being cheap.
It's a $250 million business, more or less, and it obviously requires the flexibility of a personal charter. Bashing them for chartering jets as Bush campaigns with Air Force One is quite unfair.
Jcded, I believe that when AF1 is used to fly to campaign events, the Bush "re-"election campaign has to pay a few first class fares for his campaign advisors that fly on the airplane. I bet he's paying much less for airfare than Kerry and Edwards are, but that's just an advantage that the incumbent president has.
Glideslope From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1542 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6450 times:
I'll bet Nader takes the Subway!!!!
p.s. If anyone is interested, I'll take this thread even further off topic with an Airbus vs WTO post?
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Tjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2297 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6272 times:
I'm sure Kerry supported the "aborted" take-off. It's the pilot's right to choose you know......
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Moose1226 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 250 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5110 times:
Isitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 26 Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5061 times:
Hey Moose...Nader does not HAVE a drivers license and never did. Thats a fact and he has stated that many times.
Happy Landings.......
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Dtw9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1048 posts, RR: 2 Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4671 times:
I heard that Edwards had stopped at Wendy's to pick up lunch to bring to Kerry, but had to abort when he found that they forgot to put kecthup in for the lies
Jfkaua From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1000 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4309 times:
mayor bloomberg in ny takes the subway to work every day..
Afay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4228 times:
Anyway, it is cool that they are using a 727, which is very distinctive. It adds a touch of class being such a beautiful aircraft, whatever your politics may be. In any case the dem campaign actually has used Amtrack a lot, making whistle stops along the way in their own carriage....
25 Redngold: FYI - local media reporting it was a warning light. Edwards' plane finally departed around 6:00 PM local time. WEWS/Cleveland ABC affliate: http://www
26 Flybyguy: Not only is flying commercial for all those campaign stops its impractical for any candidate Republican or Democrat. The fact of the matter is that ca
27 Jetjock22: The 757 that Jackass flies around in looks even uglier. I saw it at CMH today and made sure to give it the one finger salute on the way past.
28 N1120a: It is too bad Bush never uses the 757s, or 737s for that matter, that he has at his disposal. Would save US taxpayers a lot of money.
29 AviatorTJ: This is a classic instance of "You get what you pay for." Does anyone remember if Bush made Cheney ride in a broke down 727? That thing looks rather d
30 Garnetpalmetto: Well it was built in '82 and prior to Champion getting ahold of it, NW owned it until about a year ago, so it's seen a bit of service View Large View
31 DC3CV3407ac727: actually it is one of our VIP configured airplanes(59 seats) and is immaculate inside and out,the captain made the right decision, the mechanics addre
32 L-188: You better be carefull DC3CV340ac727. Edwards is a trial attorny. He is libel to sue to get costs back for the delay.
33 N801DM: It is too bad Bush never uses the 757s, or 737s for that matter, that he has at his disposal. He uses the 757 when they are going to shorter fields th
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