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User currently offlineEuropean From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 8621 times:

Hello guy's

I was wondering why does this Boeing 737-800 for Ryanair look different to the one in the picture below it?


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Love to here your views and any info on Ryanair, Boeing and colour schemes!

Thanks

Euro

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User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 8474 times:

The top one looks like the primer has been applied before full livery. Either that or it's just a trick of the light, but I'd say it is primer.

User currently offlineEuropean From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 8437 times:

What's the bottom picture then, that's not primer then?

Thanks for the reply

Euro


User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 8316 times:

The bottom picture looks like the standard green coloured protection coating that Boeing use for aluminium sections.

If I'm not mistaken it gets removed prior to primer being applied. Most bright metal parts come from the factories with some kind of anti-oxidation coating or covering.

Airbus uses an opaque green-tinted primer when their fuselage sections are shipped in.



The picture above shows the first 777 coming off the Boeing line. You can clearly see the greenish tint of the preservative covering on the body.

(n.b. photo above is from boeing.com and as required, their rights are reserved regarding its use)

[Edited 2004-10-16 18:48:41]

User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 8254 times:

I think he was asking why the two aircraft have the same registrations but are different aircraft (or have different paint schemes.)

The answer to that question - if that's the one he's asking - is that the aircraft is registered with a temporary Boeing registration while undergoing its test flights. They're two different airframes altogether.

The first picture is of a plane for Ryanair - the second is to go to Sun Country, a different plane for another airline. The Ryanair aircraft CN is 33809/1592, while the Sun Country one is CN 33016/1588.



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User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 8218 times:

Goose

He was asking about colour schemes in the original post. The top one is in a flat grey primer, the bottom one is in its anti-oxidation coat.


User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 8161 times:

Goose

He was asking about colour schemes in the original post. The top one is in a flat grey primer, the bottom one is in its anti-oxidation coat.


If you say so.

The original post reads like this;

I was wondering why does this Boeing 737-800 for Ryanair look different to the one in the picture below it?

Love to here your views and any info on Ryanair, Boeing and colour schemes!


That's terribly vague in my opinion. It seemed like he was asking why two aircraft with the same registration would have different schemes on the tail.

My mistake, though. You can obviously read his mind better than I can.



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User currently offlineTrident3 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 1013 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 8124 times:

The next question then is why is an aircraft being tested after being primed but without a topcoat. My limited experience of spraying cars is that you would not let the car out of the paintshop between priming and painting to prevent the surface being contaminated. Are aircraft paints that much different?


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User currently offlineEuropean From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 8019 times:

Just to sum this up,

I wanted to know why the soon to be Ryanair had a different colour than than the Suncounty to be jet.
I never new that each of them had the same reg.
I would welcome any info on Boeing, Ryanair and paint schemes.
Hope this clears it all up!

Now:

I would like to know why they only paint the rudder in the airlines scheme- why do they not paint the whole tail like Airbus


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Why do Airbus paint the whole tail and not just the rudder?

I prefere them painting the whole tail.

Do they paint the tail/rudder in the airlines livery so it is easily reconisable?

Thanks guy's

Euro


User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 7963 times:

My mistake, though. You can obviously read his mind better than I can.

No mind reading required, just the old fashioned skill of reading.

"look different" is straightforward enough. They look different. The reason they look different is because they are painted (or not) differently.

If there is any other usage of the English language you would like explaining to you feel free to ask.


User currently offlineSkydrolboy From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 341 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 7723 times:

I think that both aircraft are actually in the same condition...not painted.....the reason they look different is in the first photo there is no sunlight reflecting off the alluminum. If you look up more photos under that same registration they all look the same except for the the rudders being painted for different airlines.

User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week ago) and read 7668 times:

If there is any other usage of the English language you would like explaining to you feel free to ask.

I simply misread it, then. I inferred that he didn't realize that they were different aircraft....

But, if I have any problems with my native tongue, I'll just ask my mother -- she's an English teacher. Thanks, though.....  Smile



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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week ago) and read 7652 times:

Hey

could there be a thing layer of rain on the plane?? It kind of looks to me that some rain is on the plane? and causing that afect.



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User currently offlineSATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week ago) and read 7573 times:

The rudders are painted before they are balanced, same with the rest of the flight controls. They need to be balanced before they are installed.

Boeing paints some aircraft at Boeing Field vs Renton (were they're built) so some aircraft will fly with a painted rudder and unfinished fuselage on their first flight


User currently offlineBronko From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 810 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7385 times:

They are both coated the same. The difference is in the lighting as the Ryanair shot was taken on a dark and gloomy day, while the Sun Country shot was taken on a bright and sunny day.




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User currently offlineEuropean From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4108 times:

That would make a little bit of sence but i still reckon that they are both painted different!

Thanks though

Euro


User currently offlineBronko From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 810 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1519 times:

They are not painted at all, except for portions of the rudder and nose.


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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1340 times:

At first, it was indeed a bit uncertain what European was asking for, I also thought he might be asking for the registration and the painted rudder and not for the primer. Also, any info on Ryanair, Boeing and colour schemes didn't help much as this question leaves it more or less open what he was talking about.

Regarding the coat/primer/whatever: The only difference I spot is the ring on the nose of the Sun Country aircraft, and the airstairs below the 1L door of the Ryanair aircraft - Sun Country doesn't seem to have airstairs installed on their 737s.


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