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Very Spectacular South African B747 Landing!  
User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3767 posts, RR: 60
Posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 43458 times:

Hi, sorry if these photos have been posted before, but that landing is amazing! Very good work!

Who needs a 150' or 200' wide strip?

Actual shots are from a fairly impressive landing operation. One of SAA's
first B-747s retiring to Rand Airport, South Africa (elevation 5568 feet
with 4898 long x 50 feet wide
runway!) The 747-100 outer-to-outer main gear tire width is
41.33 ft. Empty aircraft Vref was 115 kts! Right on the center line. An inch
is as good as a mile. Nice work.


Images:







Really impressive!

Florian



Jet Visuals
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User currently offlineBaw716 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2028 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 42968 times:

WOW! Very impressive indeed! I note the rudder deflection just short of touchdown. was there a crosswind component too? If so, then this is even more amazing and impressive.

My compliments to the crew, and to you for bringing this superb piece of work to our attention.



David L. Lamb, fmr Area Mgr Alitalia SFO 1998-2002, fmr Regional Analyst SFO-UAL 1992-1998
User currently offlinePIA747 From Pakistan, joined Apr 2003, 624 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 42894 times:

Great airman ship. All that grey hair shows nothing but sheer experience. The 747 looks as majestic as ever.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29813 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 42852 times:

Nice to know there are some pilots around that still know how to fly the airplane.

How soon where they retired in favor of computer jockey's?



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineHaan From South Africa, joined Aug 2004, 289 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 42500 times:

You can see the B747 parked at Rand in these pictures.
If you visit SA at all one day, you have to go to Rand airport
and visit the B747. Great place to take your children for the day
or someone who has never been near a B747. Well done to
the SAA museum for keeping the B747 classic spirit alive..


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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12278 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 42248 times:
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Yikes, that was one good landing. Just looking at the second pic makes you think that one little mistake could put the plane of the runway

User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3767 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 42088 times:

Just looking at the second pic makes you think that one little mistake could put the plane of the runway

Actually a little mistake would have put it off  Smile



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User currently offlineEuropean From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 41984 times:


Hello all

What was the Aircrafts reg?

Thanks Guy's

Euro


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 41767 times:

Here are some threads that, at the time, reported on the preparation for that flight and landing:

SAA B747 Does Touch & Go's At Rand Airport (1712m)
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1280398

SAA 747-200, ZS-SAN's Last Flight Today
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1368610

SAA Museum B747 Final Ever Flight To Rand Airport
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1440489

European, as you can see here, it was ZS-SAN... and it sure was one impressive landing!!!

Regards,
Frank



Smile - it confuses people!
User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8461 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 41585 times:
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This is really old news, but a spectacular landing nonetheless, I was there to see it happen, very special moment!

As Haan says the plane is open to the public, but this pic shows the airport wasn't really built to handle 747s!!


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[Edited 2004-10-17 12:11:00]


After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineRatypus From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 40318 times:

That's incredible! Note for all those future discussions re: pilot pay....THAT'S WHY.

Seriously, it's good to know the guys flying the plane have that sort of skill....just in case.


User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1883 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 39827 times:

I think I flew what was ZS-SAN's last ever commercial flight...GRJ-JNB on November 23...not sure if this was its last ever commercial flight but very near the end of its career.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/ZS-SAN_742_GRJ_Dec.jpg (linking doesn't seem to be working for me  Nuts )

Have a pic of it on the 23rd in the queue.

It's a shame to see the 747-200's go...such lovely aircraft. Those pilots have alot of skill...when I went to see SAN at Rand (Note the pic in Andz's post) the guide was telling us the pilots said "It was like trying to land on a piece of liquorice." Big grin . If you want to know what it must be like to land a 742 at rand fire up your flightsim and give it a go  Smile/happy/getting dizzy .

Rgds
SA006

BTW thanks for the plug Andz  Big thumbs up



Proudly South African
User currently offlineKevinR From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days ago) and read 37807 times:

Amazing landing... if I were one of those pilots I'd be grinning from ear to ear for days! A pair of extremely skilled airmen.


Speed break up, deploying thrust reversers...
User currently offlineBA777 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2181 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days ago) and read 37686 times:

Nice stuff, is there a video around anywhere?

Henry


User currently offlineIanatstn From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 577 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days ago) and read 37507 times:

Although I have seen them before...absolutely fantastic pictures! Full credit to the pilots, amazing job!

Does anyone know if a 747 or other large passenger airliner has been forced to make a landing on such a short and narrow runway?

Cheers  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Ian@STN



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9097 posts, RR: 76
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days ago) and read 37361 times:
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I only can say WOW!!!!!! GOOD JOB!!!!



It it's not Boeing, I am not going.
User currently offlineEuropean From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 35964 times:

Thanks leskova,


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How ,any aircraft does SAA have

742?
743?
744?

thanks

Euro


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8461 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 33798 times:
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European the only 747s SAA currently operates are the 6 remaining 744s.

Ironically the landing discussed here was the flight engineer's last flight before being forced into retirement.



After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineMtyfreak From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 377 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 31010 times:

Truly amazing, this guys are truly amazing pilots,

RESPECT.



Only here for the beer...
User currently offlineStandby87 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2001, 536 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 30879 times:

I was going to joke that my wife would have a problem parking a car on a runway as narrow as that.

But that would be sexist and I won't do it.


User currently offlineFrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3813 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 30577 times:

Seeing how the main wheels barely fit on the width of the runway, and after seeing the airport pics, how do you suppose they taxied it out?

The taxiways do look narrower than the runway to me...

?



Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
User currently offlineIahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3462 posts, RR: 42
Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 30422 times:
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As narrow as that runway is, the taxiways looked even tighter. Would I be correct in assuming there were difficulties in moving the aircraft off the runway?


Working very hard to Fly Right....
User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8461 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 30232 times:
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A interesting sideline for those praising the flying skill, the captain on the left is Dennis Spence and he is an aerobatic pilot in his spare time, as are several other SAA pilots.

Iahcsr they tried using a tug brought from JNB which is not too far away but the tug lost traction on the grass, so they started the engines again and moved her under her own power, I couldn't stay to watch the whole operation but I believe some taxiing over grass was required.

[Edited 2004-10-17 20:53:53]


After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineTheiler From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 28474 times:

That aircraft must have been incredibly light! I wonder what the bearing strength of the runway and taxiway surfaces was?

User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1883 posts, RR: 54
Reply 24, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 28406 times:

Dennis Spence is a truly good pilot whom I know personally actually and gave me a jumpseat when I was 4  Big thumbs up ...He was in one of the 747-300's in the flypast in Pretoria
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SA006



Proudly South African
25 Andz : Theiler I asked the flight engineer about the weight and if they stripped anything out, I was told no, the aircraft was in full operational condition.
26 JumboJet : amazing. If you told me this plane would land on that runway I would have said no way. According to the dimensions of the width of the runway to the d
27 Aerosvit : and now...all we need to see is a successful water landing.
28 MissedApproach : I know they can use the main taxiway in Trenton for landing, but even that's 7200x100 feet. Plus, the A310 is lots smaller than the 747. I'll remembe
29 Post contains links Andz : I had a look at a link I posted about this event when it happened and I think it's worth posting again for those interested: http://www.pprune.org/for
30 Post contains links SAA201 : You can also get all the information of the SAA Museum Society website, http://www.saamuseum.co.za
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