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A-I Wants To Sport A New Look With Bigger Fleet  
User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2884 posts, RR: 18
Posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6232 times:

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/887290.cms

Many of yoll may think its the usual all talk and no show. But the plus point apart from those mentioned about the IFE in the article is that newspapers are also reporting about AI and others on a regular bases. This shows the general awareness about our great carrier AI in the indian public and press who generally does not care about the indian aviation sector.

Hope for once what is written in the article comes true

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User currently offlineAeroAussie From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6188 times:

Frankly I quite like Air India's current scheme. Maybe they could spruce it up a little bit, but I really hope that they hang on to the flying palace. Those windows are one-of-a-kind!
Good Luck, AI!

-Nick


User currently offline22right From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 420 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6120 times:

Pls correct me if I am wrong, but nowehere in that article does it say that they plan on introducing a "new look" as in new color scheme. What am I missing??



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6081 times:

I cant stand the retro-look on any airline... but Satan's drawers will probably ice over before AI gets a new livery, sorry.

User currently offlineAirish From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 259 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5822 times:

I hope that some of the planned routes mentioned in the article are started soon. It would be nice to see YYZ start via MAN or BHX. A night flight would be popular from London with VFRS segment of the market. Most of the people whom I speak to about flights to India say that they prefer night departures from London. Also depending on the time of the night flight it could route via DEL during the winter when the fog is bad in the morning and provide a direct like with London during that time.

On the livery a new one is not needed but the current one needs to be modified to have the website displayed and the tail could be modified to have a new design on it. Other than that the livery is fine as it is.

Let's hope IFE in your seat gets put in on the 747 400s that would make Air India's economy product which is already good even better.



Worlds Only Reputable Airline Air India! Some Of The Least: BA, Jet (9w), Kingfisher!
User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2884 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5361 times:

Nice comments Airish,how i wish these would come sooner than later from the various boards in the indian govt

User currently offlineAirish From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 259 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5254 times:

Thanks Karan69. Lets hope it happens though.


Worlds Only Reputable Airline Air India! Some Of The Least: BA, Jet (9w), Kingfisher!
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5243 times:

Let's hope IFE in your seat gets put in on the 747 400s that would make Air India's economy product which is already good even better.

VT-AIE and VT-AIF already have PTVs in Y class and the 3 777s due from December will also have PTVs. The original 6 -437s will probably go in for fitting of new IFE systems from mid-2005 and depending on vendors selected and cost of installation may be fitted with a system at that time.


User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5161 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5190 times:

How far along is AI on getting flights to Houston approved?


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User currently offlineAirish From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 259 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5175 times:

Thanks Sean.

Is VT-AIF now operating with AI.

Is there any more news on when the new flights to London are due to start as I have someone travelling back on AI121 from DEL in December and I was wondering if the flight time or routing now might change.



Worlds Only Reputable Airline Air India! Some Of The Least: BA, Jet (9w), Kingfisher!
User currently offlineHawaijahaz From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5120 times:

Will all the aircrafts have the same IFE system? I believe that VT-AIE and VT-AIF are ex-SQ aircrafts and the 777s will be ex-UA aircrafts. Will AI keep the original IFE system on the different aircrafts or stick to one kind?



User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5030 times:

Is VT-AIF now operating with AI.

Yes, AI has taken delivery of AIF.

I have someone travelling back on AI121 from DEL in December and I was wondering if the flight time or routing now might change.

AI 121 of Saturdays will no longer route BOM-DEL-LHR from December 20 onwards but rather BOM-LHR nonstop due to fog issues. Check with Air India if your travel date is affected. Passengers will be reaccomodated the previous evening on a DEL-BOM shuttle flight with hotel provided at Mumbai.

Will all the aircrafts have the same IFE system?

No. The ex-Korean -4B5s will not be fitted with any new IFE system and the new system on the -437s (whatever is selected) will not be the same as on the -412s.


User currently offlineHawaijahaz From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4907 times:

Thanks Sean.

I was also wondering how long is the lease for the -4B5s and for the -412s.

I guess it makes sense that AI doesn't want to install IFEs on aircrafts now owned by them. So that would also mean that the 777s would have UA's IFE system (making it different from the -437s and -412s).

Even though it makes economic sense, but it makes AIs service very unpredictable. I think that standardization is key in differentiating your product.

I'm just glad that some progress is being made in making AI more competitive in the global market.


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4850 times:

I was also wondering how long is the lease for the -4B5s and for the -412s.

3 year initial extendable on option to 5 years.


User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4777 times:

Yes, AI has taken delivery of AIF.

Iska naam kya hai? Maybe I guess correctly as I did with Mamalapuram... maybe Gaya?

I think that standardization is key in differentiating your product.

On the other side, even individualization can be a nice strategy. Imagine, each of AI's aircraft having a really own identity with different products, different seat colors etc etc etc... Just my dreams  Big grin


[Edited 2004-10-19 19:36:15]

User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4696 times:

They should start with their website.

It's disgraceful and woefully out of date (unless, nonsensical news tidbits like "Coorgis to be fed thambattu on BLR-Dxb flights" count).

And a horrible symbol for a country that is an IT powerhouse.


User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4649 times:

Jay, first welcome back! I was afraid you might disappear!

They should start with their website.

It's disgraceful and woefully out of date


Just FYI, go on the German page http://www.airindia.de (you will understand the most).. an interesting mix of German and English language and 'sophisticated' hyperlinks, updated in a 'periodical manner'..! Big grin

A piece of amusement and a good 'good-night'-webpage  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineVimanav From India, joined Jul 2003, 1515 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4605 times:

Something completely off the topic, but an observation nonetheless:

Does not the script/font of "Airliners.net" at the top of the page look exactly like Air India's???

Vimanav



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User currently onlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4304 posts, RR: 36
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4573 times:

Air India had so much adverse reactions when they tried to introduce a new scheme, one of the few times an airline reintroduced its old colour. At least BA didn't go back to Landor after their stakeholders didn't like the World Tails. I guess AI for sure won't ever try to change it again.
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User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4561 times:

Subin, what a crock the German site turned out to be! Es ist einen Deutsche Fassade that just links you back to the desi site!

Did I get that right, by the way?

Ooh, and I love this phrase: "nicht vegetarischen" = never heard it before!

As for Air India, well, they want a lot of things. And they need these things more than most. But then I want the Israeli security guard I saw on the treadmill a few weeks ago... In both cases, not very likely. Certainly not anytime soon.

[Edited 2004-10-19 21:44:46]

User currently offlineAirish From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 259 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4511 times:

Here is another relevant article

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2004/10/20/stories/2004102000920500.htm



Worlds Only Reputable Airline Air India! Some Of The Least: BA, Jet (9w), Kingfisher!
User currently offlineWindowSeat From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1311 posts, RR: 57
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4486 times:



Well, I guess AI is headed in the right direction after all. Maybe, just maybe, I'll give AI a try after all.

Good Luck to AI.

cheers








I'm all in favour of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with keyboards.
User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4466 times:

Well, I guess AI is headed in the right direction after all. Maybe, just maybe, I'll give AI a try after all.

Nothing wrong with the service quality on AI long haul, WindowSeat. It's wonderful.

As for the rest of it, well, this is India. These things take time. We are like this only.


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4468 times:

They could hire a few A.netters on here and they could update their moronic website in a few hours.

The German website is hilarious - but I'm sure that it impresses some babus in Delhi that AI has a website in German !


User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2884 posts, RR: 18
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4376 times:

Seriously,maybe the proposed improvement of the web site by a.netters woud be a start to a whole new sector of aviation where AI has achieved its goals

25 Post contains images Mrniji : Did I get that right, by the way? Soundz good.. the funny thing is that the AI German webpage was launched, if I remember correctly, already in 1999..
26 Post contains links Mrniji : By the way, one of the best sites displaying the bad content management of AI's website is http://www.airindia.com/page.asp?pageid=12 (Code sharing ag
27 Post contains images Vimanav : who the h--- manages the page?? SOme Babus? Psst... its not mere babus... these are babus recruited under the SC/ST category. Go ahead fry me rgds//Vi
28 Post contains links Jaysit : http://www.airindia.com/page.asp?pageid=46 ...is the WORST showcasing of a First Class product on a website I've ever seen ! The portly aunty and uncl
29 Post contains links Vimanav : And while on the subject of AI website bashing, will somebody please tell them that their B747-300s are powered by CF6-80C2-B1 engines and not -81s ar
30 Post contains images Jasepl : Psst... its not mere babus... these are babus recruited under the SC/ST category. LOL! Not that the non-SC/ST ones are always any better! And while on
31 Post contains links 22right : And did anyone else think that in the picture of the amenities kit (or whatever that is) in the lower half of the screen (http://www.airindia.com/pag
32 Thunderbird1 : Good for AI. Things seem to be moving in the right direction. I'll keep my eyes open for AIF here at LAX.
33 Post contains images Behramjee : Forget F class...their B 744/743 J Class too is nothing gr8 at all http://www.airindia.com/page.asp?pageid=55 J Class seat pitch is a meagre 47 inches
34 Post contains images B747-437B : Thank god for their recent announcement of refurbishing this cabin You do realize that the "recent" announcement was made 3 years ago and that the new
35 Post contains links Airish : Air India's website does need some up dating. VT-AIB VT-AIE VT-AIF are not even listed on the fleet page http://www.airindia.com/page.asp?pageid=2 Doe
36 Post contains images Mrniji : They just haven't updated the website to reflect that! Well, compared to the German website the Indian one does quite well
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