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US Airways/Colgan To Start BOS-ISP  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32691 posts, RR: 72
Posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3544 times:

Filling the void left by American Eagle very quickly, US Airways Express carrier Colgan Air will inagurate service between Islip and Boston on 8 November 2004. They will operate three daily flights on business days, one on Saturdays, and two on Sundays, all with Beech 1900s.

This compliments current US Airways Express service from Islip to Albany and Philadelphia.


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User currently offlineTbird From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 851 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3482 times:

Thanks for the informaiton, I didn't see that coming at all. Anyway at least ISP regains its Boston service, wish the fare was lower though.

User currently offlineSonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3436 times:

Can someone please tell me what aircraft Eagle operated on this route, thanks.

-SOAC



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8897 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week ago) and read 3399 times:

Eagle used ERJ-135s 3 times daily.

Jeff


User currently offlineBigphilnyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4076 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3322 times:

I think ISP is a sad little airport. It serves some Long Island residents and also NYC residents who can't find the same deals elsewhere, even though the airport is 50 miles from Manhattan and virtually inaccessible from the city.

Even in another thread today, someone was discussing that LGA-BOS shuttle, how the prices are so high because of lack of LCC competition. Well shit, that's why a BOS route would work at ISP, because it's a cheaper option. LGA hurts because of it, adn Delta and US think they have no competition on the route and charge high prices, when in fact, now they do.

When a route out of ISP is doing well, it's probably because one of NYCs airports dropped the ball and is not being competitive enough so much to force people to go to Islip.

I can't lie though, part of my dislike for ISP is also becuase of my detention there a year and a half ago for photography.

-Phil

[Edited 2004-10-20 07:54:33]


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User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3302 times:

MAH-I noticed this when I posted the schedules...BTW, did you happen to notice that effective February 6, 2005, USX-Colgan's ALB-ISP route is upgraded from Beechcraft-1900's to Saab-340's?


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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6742 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3292 times:

Uhhhh the population of Nassau and Suffolk Counties taken together is 2.8 million -- considerably more than hub cities like STL, DEN, PIT, CLT, SLC, MEM, CVG, LAS, etc. Southwest's average fares to Florida from ISP are essentially equivalent to jetBlue's fares to Florida from JFK. ISP doesn't need to draw any traffic at all from NYC; there are plenty of people in its catchment area.

Check out the ISP-BOS fares on Colgan; they are considerably higher than LGA-BOS fares on the Shuttles. This route is being operated for Long Islanders (and Bostonians) who are willing to pay for the convenience of flying to or from an airport that is close-by. People are not flying ISP-BOS for a good deal.

ISP-Florida routes don't do well due to lack of service on LCC's from JFK and LGA to the same cities; similarly LGA-MDW sees LCC service from ATA. ISP has been a success for WN largely because there are plenty of people on Long Island who would prefer to use a closer-by, smaller, less congested airport when the fares are competitive.


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3228 times:

ISP is not sad!

It is small, but it is growing and I think in 4 or 5 years it will be awesome. I think being detained for taking pics is wrong and I have been hassled all the time at IFP but you can't let it bother you.


User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1738 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3174 times:

I know plenty of ppl in Nassau, and Suffolk. Most of them have no idea that ISP even exists, and use JFK, and LGA exclusively. Much of Nassau county is closer to JFK, than ISP also.


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User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5643 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3160 times:

I know plenty of ppl in Nassau, and Suffolk. Most of them have no idea that ISP even exists, and use JFK, and LGA exclusively. Much of Nassau county is closer to JFK, than ISP also.

Even if you totally ignore Nassau County due to its proximity to JFK and LGA, you still have a population of 1.5 million in Suffolk County who are in ISP's cachement area. And WN advertises quite heavily in the area. That's why they do so well out of ISP.



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User currently offlineIsp From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3010 times:

I don't know what fares you are looking at, but Shuttle fares on US & DL are at an all time low due to competition from Acela. You would never be able to get walk up fares for $250 four years ago.

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