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User currently onlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9107 posts, RR: 15
Posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9837 times:

I understand that Malaysia Airlines, Qatar, Emirates etc are under Islamic countries. However, do they serve anything like pork? Any difference between their food and other ordinary airlines?



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User currently offlineOD-BWH From Kuwait, joined Jan 2002, 399 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9768 times:

Emirates, and Qatar as I blv, serve Alcohol, altough airlines like Kuwait Airways and Saudi Arabian airlines do not due to Islamic regulations.

However, meals on all arab/moslem airlines (incl. MEA) are moslem meals, i.e., do not contain pork, ham, or bacon, and also are not cooked with alcohol (wine or whatever, but vinegar is allowed). This is considered b'coz the majority of travellers on these airlines do prefer moslem meals due to the reason above...



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User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9733 times:

I would be very surprised if they did - actually it is impossible. I took GF once, they served alcohol but only Halal meat

User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 38
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9705 times:

THY Turkish Airlines certainly don't. And considering Turkey's secularism, if THY don't serve pork, then why would EK, MH or any of the others? Interesting how some serve alcohol, as has been mentioned...

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ZXV




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User currently offlineSpike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1170 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9688 times:

You can get as pissed as you like on GF untill you get anywhere near Saudi or American airspace. rather strange that the US is an extension of Saudi Arabia.

User currently offlineOD-BWH From Kuwait, joined Jan 2002, 399 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9676 times:

I didnt get what u mean, Spike...


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User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9597 times:

You can get as pissed as you like on GF untill you get anywhere near Saudi or American airspace

TBH, I am quite sure that they served alc throughout my flight to MCT, also over Saudi Space


User currently offlineME Avn Fan From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9586 times:

LVZXV; alcohol is prohibited by the Koran, "medicaments" however are NOT. and red wine is good against too low blood pressure (etc) !

User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9555 times:

and red wine is good against too low blood pressure (etc) !

So what are Beer and Martini good against?  Big thumbs up


User currently onlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9107 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9553 times:

What about EK and MH? Do they serve pork and wine?

User currently offlineAirindia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9535 times:

many leading airlines flying out or into islamic destinations (including singapore) offer a choice of halal and non-halal (jhatka) for the non-veg pax...

User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5578 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9533 times:

You can get as pissed as you like on GF untill you get anywhere near Saudi or American airspace. rather strange that the US is an extension of Saudi Arabia.

GF no longer flies to the United States.



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User currently offlineDaumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 687 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9468 times:

ladies and gentlemen, we'd like to inform you, that alcohol is not permitted on board of this aircraft. drinking is also not permitted in the lavatory  Smile

User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9400 times:

I find it hard to believe Aer Lingus and Aeroflot stop serving alcohol 4 hours before they get to US airspace.....

User currently offlineChrisrad From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1055 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9327 times:

MH does indeed serve alchohol, infact they have an entire drinks section at the back of the food menus they hand out. However they don't serve pork, but usually have 3 choices in economy class meals.


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User currently offlineMas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2935 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9284 times:

Malaysia Airlines serves Halal food only which in effect is pork-free and all food has been prepared under strict Islamic law. Its rarely a problem since pork is rarely served on most airlines anyway. Most airlines today alter their menus to be sensitive to local culture anyway - so even when BA flew into Malaysia - they often substituted their sausages and bacon with chicken sausages and turkey bacon.

Alcohol is still served on Malaysia Airlines as alcohol is not illegal in Malaysia and despite being an Islamic state, a large proportion of its population are not Muslim and alcohol is widely consumed in most parts of the country without much of a problem. In fact, the wine cellar of Malaysia Airlines is actually quite good.

With food - its quite a different issue as it is easier (and more cost effective) to build kitchens to prepare Halal food only rather than to have two separate kitchens as would otherwise be necessary.


User currently offlineSyarif From Malaysia, joined Jul 2004, 29 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9224 times:

No, Malaysia Airlines does not serve pork on-board. But yes it does serve acoholic drinks. However, most of the the FA are quite selective on serving alcohol on-board. I mean they would almost never offer alcohol to Muslim passengers.
Malaysia is not an Islamic country, but it is a Muslim majority country where 55% population are Muslim (mostly are ethnic Malay) and the rest are Buddhist, Hindu, Christian and indigeneous beliefs. Islam however is the official religion of Malaysia although freedom of religion are practiced.


User currently offlineME Avn Fan From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 9147 times:

UnitedAirline; EK serves excellent French wines, but of course NOT pork !

User currently offlineME Avn Fan From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 9140 times:

Mrniji; beer is good medicine against nervous conditions, but Martini ? no excuse for that !

User currently offlineME Avn Fan From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 9131 times:

Afay1; EI does serve alcoholic beverages quite near to the USA

User currently offlineME Avn Fan From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 9112 times:

Mas777; pork IS served in many forms on many airlines in the West, something that DOES pose problems for Muslim travellers !

User currently offlineN757kw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 8989 times:

For what it is worth, I have travelled on Lion Air and Garuda in Indonesia on domestic flights. They served traditional Indonesian food. No pork. Not sure about the alcohol. I did not see it served, but I did not ask either.

Going to and from Jakarta on Korean Air and EVA, alcohol was served, but no pork in the meal service. My wife told me on her flight on Korean Air out of Jakarta, she was told all the meals were halal. From Seoul back to Jakarta she was offered a seperate halal meal.

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User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 8946 times:

If you think about it, it is easier to serve alcohol to passengers who want it and not serve it to those who do not then it is to worry about people who did not know you could order a halal meal and therefore may get upset that the meal is not halal. Of course they would not serve pork if they were serving halal meals, as it is most definately haram, but for ultra-religious people who have to have halal meat (same as kosher meat, but with a mulah and not a rabbi) it is just easier for the airlines to make the whole thing halal. And remember, you can always order a special meal.

Oh, and US airlines serve alcohol on domestic flights all the time, so serving alcohol is not an issue. Serving alcohol to someone under 21 might be an issue, but still, I had a friend who got drunk on SQ flying to see family in Pakistan and he was 16



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User currently offlineMyszek From Poland, joined Aug 2004, 20 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8461 times:

I flew in and out of US on multiple US and European airlines. They serve all kinds of alcohol regardless of what the a/c flies over at the time. Not to mention alcohol availability on US domestic flights.

User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24326 posts, RR: 47
Reply 24, posted (9 years 6 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8384 times:

Most foreign airlines serving the Middle East also do not serve pork.
I was on two Lufthansa flights recently were a inflight annoucements was made indicating that the inflight meals were pork free.



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25 Afay1 : While US carriers are required to follow US regulations even outside of US airspace. Foreign carriers are usually under no obligation to do so, so wil
26 Post contains images Rtfm : Mrniji/Jacobin777 - couldn't agree more! Considering that Saudi is the birthplace of Mohammed (apologies if the spelling is incorrect..) and home of s
27 IL76TD : will vietnam airlines serve dog on their 7E7's lol
28 Levent : A friend of ours living in Saudi Arabia visited us in Thailand once, and was flying Saudi Arabian Airlines during the ramadan... no food during the fl
29 Post contains images Jasepl : I'm not sure about the 4 hour rule, but what I think Spike's trying to say has to do with it being "foreign" booze. The drink's not duty-paid and is t
30 Post contains images KEno : A friend of ours living in Saudi Arabia visited us in Thailand once, and was flying Saudi Arabian Airlines during the ramadan... no food during the fl
31 Starlionblue : Malaysia is not an Islamic country, but it is a Muslim majority country where 55% population are Muslim (mostly are ethnic Malay) and the rest are Bud
32 Post contains images Maersk737 : "will vietnam airlines serve dog on their 7E7's lol" Yes, Hotdogs Cheers, In whatever you prefer to drink Peter
33 Fly-K : Talking about fasting, I heard one is exempt from fasting during Ramadan when travelling (based on the hardship of travelling in old days). Travelling
34 Mrniji : Following Stalionblue, just some thoughts: Muslims in South Asia are for instance, in my eyes, completey different from Muslims in Arabia. Their rites
35 HB-IWC : many leading airlines flying out or into islamic destinations (including singapore) offer a choice of halal and non-halal (jhatka) for the non-veg pax
36 Klmyank : Takeoff on BA from RUH...as soon as the wheels are in the well the BAR IS OPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and I tell you, after 4 months working in RUH, you need i
37 Post contains images Codeshare : While travelling on KU I never had the need for alcohol or any pork. They served good chicken, fish and lamb. Besides, even when I had the choice on a
38 Mas777 : ME_Anv_Fan Read my post again - I did not state that non-muslim airlines do not serve pork - I just stated that it is not common to serve pork. It may
39 Fly-K : And I imagine BA is only catering to the needs of local customers by opening the bar... just like Saudis like to visit places like DXB or BEY on weeke
40 KEno : During Ramadan, travellers are advised by the Koran NOT to fast. A more accurate description would be traveller are ALLOWED not to fast (rather that A
41 Jasepl : You know, it just hit me when I was reading MAS777's post. Air India (and the other carriers in the country) don't serve either pork or beef. Ever. Th
42 Hz747300 : When I was little we lived in JED for 12 years (1975-1987) and flew several airlines in and out of the Kingdom--mainly Saudia though, since Mom and Da
43 Mrniji : I don't see anyone bashing AI. Strange, but unsurprising. I think it is great AI does not do it in view of the Hindu/Muslim Population in India and t
44 ME Avn Fan : Gulf Air did and I think still do serve wine while above Saudi territory. --- That Saudi Arabian Airlines does NOT serve anything during Ramadan at da
45 Hz747300 : Gulf Air did and I think still do serve wine while above Saudi territory. --- That Saudi Arabian Airlines does NOT serve anything during Ramadan at da
46 ME Avn Fan : Mas777; pork-containing sausages, salami, bacon, etc is ALL pork -- and very often it is difficult to define what exactly is in these "food-boxes" ! F
47 ME Avn Fan : HB-IWC; what you write about Indonesia applies to most Arab countries, except Saudi Arabia. They are Muslim countries majority-wise but NOT "Islamic c
48 ME Avn Fan : HZ747; well, Arab (Muslim) cities during Ramadan awake as soon as it becomes dark, and people stream into all those special restaurants. Everything is
49 Jacobin777 : More like a twisting of the rules ......there is no islamic sharia (jurisprudence) which prohibits muslims from serving non-muslims food or liquids du
50 Shuttle3echo : Fasting or not fasting its business as usual for all airline passengers and dont forget that the Muslim crew fast too.
51 Fly-K : Jacobin777, thanks for the link, I think the info on the Jumeirah webpage sums it up nicely, at least the way things are handled here in DXB. Unfortun
52 RogerThat : I find it hard to believe Aer Lingus and Aeroflot stop serving alcohol 4 hours before they get to US airspace I find it hard to believe that either of
53 N1120a : (Not all Muslim men have beards, although AFAIK the Koran states they should have one.) Nothing in the Koran says a muslim man must have a beard. That
54 OD-BWH : N1120a It's not that much. Shariya is acutally the legislation (i donno if the meaning fits perfectly here) taken from the Koran and teachings of Prop
55 Emrecan : (Not all Muslim men have beards, although AFAIK the Koran states they should have one.) Who told you this??????? !!!!!!! Koran never says muslims shou
56 Hz747300 : HZ747; well, Arab (Muslim) cities during Ramadan awake as soon as it becomes dark, and people stream into all those special restaurants. Everything is
57 Marco : I fly AF three or four times a year from YUL-DXB and return, and we're always served alcohol over Saudi territory. But for us I guess it doesn't matte
58 N1120a : (Then where is the sacrifice??? If all you do is reverse your hours, how are sacrificing in remembrance of the Muslim warriors, mainly Mohammed?! To m
59 Post contains images Jacobin777 : OD-BWH.......i wasn't to sure regarding the stipulation on Emirates airlines about not serving muslims alcohol (that's why I wrote "and/or"), but I kn
60 ME Avn Fan : HZ747; the point basically is NOT sacrifice but self-constraint during daylight hours. The problem with "sense" is of course the reason why many Musli
61 Mdsh00 : EK and/or the United Arab Emirates doesn't do that exactly..what they do is if one's name is Muslim (i.e. verifiable through ID), they will refuse to
62 United Airline : Cathay Pacific offers Islamic/Kosher food. But you must make a special request at least 24 hours before departure.
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