Dtw9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1044 posts, RR: 2 Posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 14155 times:
Local Detroit news stations reporting a thin build black man was found dead in the wheel well of an american airlines flight from Miami to Detroit at 5am this morning. The flight originated in the Domiomn Republic No further info at this time
767-332ER From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 12 Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 14001 times:
So much for safety. Looks like they really need to check every little nook in the airplane for "stoaways"
Twinjets...if one fails, work the other one twice as hard!!!
NYCAAer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 660 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 13968 times:
This happened to another AA flight a while back, on an A300 from Montego Bay, Jamaica to JFK. Don't these people realize you don't make it alive? They always get killed.
JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 13971 times:
I remember similiar stories on flights arriving from Cuba and South Asia - bodies have been found on the approach path into LHR, people who climbed into wheelwells on flights from South Asia, froze to death or at least lost conciousness en route, and fell out when the gear were lowered on final approach. Icky.
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7158 posts, RR: 8 Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 13777 times:
Wasn't an Arrow Air DC8 eventually written off in SIN,I believe,because a stow-away was crushed in the nosegear-well when the gear was retracted - the crew had indications that the gear wasn't all stowed and they had to return.
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HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7 Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 13348 times:
I live in Florida, and I am listening to Drew and Mike 101.1 WRIF FM from Detroit online right now and they were just talking about that and thats why I came on here.
ElectraBob From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 931 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 13232 times:
I guess this guy didn't care for AA's "more room throughout coach" - so he decided to take a seat in his own compartment.
They showed the aircraft this morning on the local news here in Detroit...a crew was changing a tire on the main landing gear when they discovered the body (the aircraft was a 738 which arrived from Miami at 1120pm last nite). No one knows where he climbed into the wheel well....Domincan Republic, Miami or possibly somewhere else.
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Aa717driver From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1566 posts, RR: 14 Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 12962 times:
I'm sure AA is busy trying to collect the one-way fare from his family... TC
NZblue From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 632 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 12785 times:
Don't these people realize you don't make it alive? They always get killed.
They don't always get killed. I recall in August 2000 the story of the stow-away on an Air France flight from Tahiti to Los Angeles. That particular story got quite a lot of media attention here, not only because the flight involved was routed with a stop through Los Angeles on its way to France, but more importantly because the man actually SURVIVED the 8.5 hour flight in the wheel well.
SATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 12421 times:
Backfire - You hit the nail on the head -- The issue is not stowaways. The issue is how did these people get access to the aircraft. If you can sneak a body aboard you can get something more dastardly aboard as well.
Qantasguy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 157 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 12125 times:
So are the wheel wells pressurized? I would think there is not room for much in the 737. I can understand the 747. The absolute freezing temperatures would get them in the first hour I would imagine.
Fbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3687 posts, RR: 31 Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 12060 times:
I remember at the beginning of the year there was a story about a BA 747 and they found a dead guy in the wheel well. He had been on it for about a week or so and as it happened the dead guy was 'onboard' on one of my flights!
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Posti From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 106 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 11807 times:
How much can a flight from the Dominican Republic to Detroit cost, $1500? It's sad that people risk their lives for a relatively small sum of money. I realize that money doesn’t grow on trees but I'll take alive and broke over an expensive funeral any day. Sad
Acidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1855 posts, RR: 10 Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 11761 times:
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How much can a flight from the Dominican Republic to Detroit cost, $1500? It's sad that people risk their lives for a relatively small sum of money.
Consider that $1500 is a yearly salary in some countries!
Isitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 26 Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 11718 times:
PIA777.....been to Detroit lately? Banished to Detroit is not exactly Club Med.
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Foxiboy From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 208 posts, RR: 4 Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 11713 times:
When i worked for translift/transaer we had a contract for the late air afrique, a flight from ougadougu a guy hid in the wheel well he survived but fell out on landing in CDG , he was in hospital for a while then deported, however a couple of weeks later the same thing happened but the guy died, scary thing was it was the same guy. One must have to be desperate to try this.
DeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1289 posts, RR: 19 Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 11660 times:
This reminds me of a dead body found in the wheelwell of an A330 of LTU in january. Aparently, the body had been in the wheelwell for about a week and was frozen and defrosted a number of times.
DeltaWings
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Jmsintexas From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 30 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 11532 times:
What bothers me the most about this idea is that the wheel well is not a big empty space for long after take-off. How does a person manage to wedge themselves in without getting crushed by the gear???
Iowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4089 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 11526 times:
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The guy was probibly thinking life was even better in DTW than MIA, so he stayed with the plane in MIA. Full Story:
ROMULUS, Mich. (AP) - A man's body was found early Friday in the wheel well of an American Airlines jet from Miami that landed at Detroit Metropolitan Airport.
The body was found about 1 a.m. by an airport worker after passengers had disembarked. A cause of death and identity for the man, who was in his 20s, were not immediately known.
Detroit Metro spokeswoman Barbara Hogan said the flight originated in the Caribbean. She said it left Miami on Thursday evening and landed at Detroit Metro about 12:50 a.m.
The Wayne County Medical Examiner's Office was conducting an autopsy, she said.
American Airlines spokeswoman Jacquie Young said the body was found in the left main wheel well of the Boeing 737. She said the death remained under investigation.
People have attempted to stow away on flights in the wheel wells of airliners, a particularly dangerous practice because of extreme temperature and air pressure conditions.
10/22/04 09:03
25 AR385: As backfire said, it's just a matter of time somebody pulls this stunt with an explosive device or something nastier. There's no limit to the imaginat
27 ILSApproach: What movie did the current Governor of California jump out of ? The wheel well of I believe a 747...................was it "Commando"................i
28 Ltbewr: First of all, desperite people do desperite things. There was at least one case of a wheel well stowaway who survived on a flight from Cuba to Spain a
29 OPNLguy: It was indeed "Commando", and was a Western DC-10, on takeoff westbound out of LAX. Half-gainer off the nosegear into the "swamp"... (What a stinker o
30 ILSApproach: I thought it was Commando............................LOL PS...I am old enough to remember Western..................miss those bare metal 727's here at
31 PSU.DTW.SCE: This guy obviously got on in the Dominican Republic, or elsewhere in that region. He could've been in there for days. Some of those places where AA fl
32 Jhooper: This seems to happen quite frequently...
33 Lnglive1011yyz: This happened to another AA flight a while back, on an A300 from Montego Bay, Jamaica to JFK. Don't these people realize you don't make it alive? They
34 Njoizflyin: Electrabob, that asinine joke you made was cruel and ignorant. It should be pulled.
35 757MDE: They've made it alive more than once, or died but not from extreme temperatures or pressure but from falling from the landing gear. There's an urban l
36 NWADC9: But COULD you stay alive if Fido's with you? Then the captain will have to pressurize it down there, and you're with Fido. Give it some Milkbones, and
37 KYIPpilot: Electrabob, that asinine joke you made was cruel and ignorant. It should be pulled. Chill out dude. Jeez.
38 Sacflyer: "Don't you realize that these people are trying to get out of countries where most people can't even speak the local language?" Are you saying that mu
39 7574EVER: But COULD you stay alive if Fido's with you? Then the captain will have to pressurize it down there, and you're with Fido. Give it some Milkbones, and
40 PROSA: Some of those places where AA flys their 738's out of MIA aren't exactly known for their airport perimeter security. I thought that foreign airports h
41 NikonDFW: If he had died enroute to MIA, don't you think his limp body would have fallen out once the gear was lowered on approach into MIA. My guess he wedged
43 Moose1226: Could he have been in the nose gear well? I know that the main 737 gear is not enclosed, but the nose gear is.
44 Dc8jet: HlywdCraft Why would you want to listen to Drew and Mike. They are two of the biggest jerks that have ever been on radio!!!
45 EnviroTO: If this man didn't have airport clearance in the Dominican Republic then somebody should be fired down there. This plane and all the other ones flying
46 Nz1: Lets get 1 thing straight. The wheelwells are not pressurised. There is barely enough room for the wheels in both the main and nose wheel well, let al
47 HlywdCatft: **"HlywdCraft Why would you want to listen to Drew and Mike. They are two of the biggest jerks that have ever been on radio!!!"** Two big jerks that g
48 BWIA330: People have to realize that people living in the Dominican Republic, and other islands are trying to escape their country for a better life. Things ar
49 Inbound: hey BWIA330, I was just about to post that... funny you should call him drunk, because as it turned out, it was the alcohol that kept him alive all th
50 IntruderPC: Please study the photo included in post from NikonDFW. First off, most wheel wells are NOT pressurized, as there is not suppossed to be anything needi
51 Kim777fan: Not a good week here at DTW. First a 747 engine falls off in mid air, then some corpse is found dead in a wheel well prompting another round of bad De
52 Isitsafenow: I like jokes. ElectraBob was kinda witty at that, with no malice intended. Therefore, all politically correct people should take the train, ehhh? safe
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