GF-A330 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11264 times:
For early next year passengers will be able to experience the most comfortable seating and sleeping environment in the skies as Gulf Air introduces the latest state of the art flat Skybeds in First and Business Class on all A330 aircraft.
Designed to provide the ultimate in comfort, spaciousness and privacy the First Class Skybed will offer a private 'cabin' space for each passenger, which transforms into a fully functional bed, while the Business Class Skybed offers an exclusive lounge-bed sleeper position, scientifically proven to be the healthiest and most comfortable sleeping position for air travellers.
The first Skybeds will be in operation from March, serving destinations including London, Frankfurt and Paris. The full programme will be complete by July 2005.
Aerofan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 10974 times:
Why do every airline claim their seats are the most comfortable in the world. Especially when sitting in them for 30mins clearly disprove that. Perhaps pax should start suing to get a refund if it is not the most comfortable to them. False advertising...
MEA321 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 10865 times:
What a big waste of space in my opinion. How can an airline be profitable with that kind of seating arrangement?
Look at the opportunity cost of having a more dense cabin layout!
In any case, the governments take good care of Gulf Air which is why they are allowed to get away with things like this, it kinda brings back the golden age of aviation that we saw in the U.S. before deregulation. The passengers were very spoiled and pampered.
Kanebear From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 10791 times:
Some of us dislike dense cabin configurations and are willing to pay the extra to fly with the extra room. When you spend a week sleeping on planes going from meeting to meeting and need to arrive refreshed, a dense cabin configuration is your enemy.
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 10294 times:
Look like standard contemporary First and Business Class cabins. Different colors, but other than that they've just brought their product into line with other major carriers. How are these seats any better than what Swiss or SQ or BA offer?
Antares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 9846 times:
Having flown the new Virgin Atlantic upper class to New York over a month ago I'd say that the Gulf business class cabin is dead in the water if it has to compete with that concept.
The first class looked very good, but didn't seem to offer all that much more than the new Virgin product, which is also going to kill the otherwise good Qantas new long haul business class seats when we get it here in December. And we will also see the Virgin type of sleeper on Air NZ starting sometime next year.
Fuffla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8796 times:
"Some of us dislike dense cabin configurations and are willing to pay the extra to fly with the extra room."
I totally agree. Not only do some people like having a little extra room when flying but others need the extra room. People, like my grandfather, have poor circulation in their legs and have no choice but to pay that little extra just to stay healthy. The airlines need to cater for people such as these because they can and will pay big bucks for luxury. This is where airlines can gain more money than having an economy layout in the same cabin.
Kaitak From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7408 times:
As someone who has experienced the discomfort of long haul economy - particularly when it's full, I can vouch for the need for extra space. I will be flying to Orlando with Virgin next February and I'm damned if I'm going to put up with their Economy Class; I'm flying Premium Economy.
It really is worth it to pay a surcharge for more space. Of course, if I could afford Upper Class, I would take it!
Fbgdavidson From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6579 times:
Dense configurations make more money????? Think about it!
Taking into account the average price of a J seat on a given flight (averaging full fare J & discount J) I'd say £1000/$1800 (half a return fare) is a fair assumption. Can you get £1000 worth of Y seats into the space occupied by the one J seat? Not likely
I am with the Why Y group! Having done approx 80% of my flights as a teen in F or J I would not be happy with flying in the back now I have become accustomed to it. Now I am paying for my own flights I still fly J on longhaul, although earlier in the year I was looking to book a last minute trip to IAD and couldn't get J on BA or UA and wasn't willing to pay for F so decided on UA. Even in E+ I felt extremely cramped.