GF-A330 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 1644 posts, RR: 2 Posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 12208 times:
For early next year passengers will be able to experience the most comfortable seating and sleeping environment in the skies as Gulf Air introduces the latest state of the art flat Skybeds in First and Business Class on all A330 aircraft.
Designed to provide the ultimate in comfort, spaciousness and privacy the First Class Skybed will offer a private 'cabin' space for each passenger, which transforms into a fully functional bed, while the Business Class Skybed offers an exclusive lounge-bed sleeper position, scientifically proven to be the healthiest and most comfortable sleeping position for air travellers.
The first Skybeds will be in operation from March, serving destinations including London, Frankfurt and Paris. The full programme will be complete by July 2005.
Aerofan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11918 times:
Why do every airline claim their seats are the most comfortable in the world. Especially when sitting in them for 30mins clearly disprove that. Perhaps pax should start suing to get a refund if it is not the most comfortable to them. False advertising...
MEA321 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 389 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11809 times:
What a big waste of space in my opinion. How can an airline be profitable with that kind of seating arrangement?
Look at the opportunity cost of having a more dense cabin layout!
In any case, the governments take good care of Gulf Air which is why they are allowed to get away with things like this, it kinda brings back the golden age of aviation that we saw in the U.S. before deregulation. The passengers were very spoiled and pampered.
Kanebear From United States of America, joined May 2002, 953 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11735 times:
Some of us dislike dense cabin configurations and are willing to pay the extra to fly with the extra room. When you spend a week sleeping on planes going from meeting to meeting and need to arrive refreshed, a dense cabin configuration is your enemy.
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 11238 times:
Look like standard contemporary First and Business Class cabins. Different colors, but other than that they've just brought their product into line with other major carriers. How are these seats any better than what Swiss or SQ or BA offer?
Antares From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 1402 posts, RR: 38
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 10790 times:
Having flown the new Virgin Atlantic upper class to New York over a month ago I'd say that the Gulf business class cabin is dead in the water if it has to compete with that concept.
The first class looked very good, but didn't seem to offer all that much more than the new Virgin product, which is also going to kill the otherwise good Qantas new long haul business class seats when we get it here in December. And we will also see the Virgin type of sleeper on Air NZ starting sometime next year.
Fuffla From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 9740 times:
"Some of us dislike dense cabin configurations and are willing to pay the extra to fly with the extra room."
I totally agree. Not only do some people like having a little extra room when flying but others need the extra room. People, like my grandfather, have poor circulation in their legs and have no choice but to pay that little extra just to stay healthy. The airlines need to cater for people such as these because they can and will pay big bucks for luxury. This is where airlines can gain more money than having an economy layout in the same cabin.
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12854 posts, RR: 35
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8352 times:
As someone who has experienced the discomfort of long haul economy - particularly when it's full, I can vouch for the need for extra space. I will be flying to Orlando with Virgin next February and I'm damned if I'm going to put up with their Economy Class; I'm flying Premium Economy.
It really is worth it to pay a surcharge for more space. Of course, if I could afford Upper Class, I would take it!
Fbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3732 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7523 times:
Dense configurations make more money????? Think about it!
Taking into account the average price of a J seat on a given flight (averaging full fare J & discount J) I'd say £1000/$1800 (half a return fare) is a fair assumption. Can you get £1000 worth of Y seats into the space occupied by the one J seat? Not likely
I am with the Why Y group! Having done approx 80% of my flights as a teen in F or J I would not be happy with flying in the back now I have become accustomed to it. Now I am paying for my own flights I still fly J on longhaul, although earlier in the year I was looking to book a last minute trip to IAD and couldn't get J on BA or UA and wasn't willing to pay for F so decided on UA. Even in E+ I felt extremely cramped.
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