Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9340 times:
AMERICAN cities are clamouring to assemble a possible Airbus refuelling tanker for the US Air Force.
It would be the first Airbus plant outside Europe.
European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Company, which owns 80% of Airbus, plans to invest about £400m and hire 1,000 workers at a US plant if it, instead of its American rival Boeing, wins an order for up to 100 of the tankers.
Speaking at the opening of a new EADS helicopter plant in Mississippi, company co-chief executive Philippe Camus said: "We are receiving many, many signs of interest coming from many locations around the country."
F4N From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 8965 times:
Rather misleading article headline, don't you think? "Battle" and "expressions of interest" hardly seem synonymous to me, especially considering that the tanker contract seems destined for nowhere at the moment. Both Lockheed-Martin and Northrup-Grumman have stated they are not interested in partnering with EADS in this, limiting EADS' possible options.
Regardless of the KA-330's technical merits, it will be difficult for them to win this contract unless they are prepared to make far more substantial investments than that already mentioned. An assembly line to modify "green" a/c built in Europe is nowhere near good enough for a contract potentially for 500+ frames and worth well over 20+ billion USD. If 100% industrial offsets are required to cover the acquisition costs of such a large number of non-productive capital items, EADS isn't even in the ballpark yet.
It will, however, be interesting to see how this plays out. While I have no issue with the USAF acquiring the KA-330, it should be done ONLY if it benefits the USAF, the US taxpayer and the US economy. Anything less is not worth it.
Kim777fan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 510 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6423 times:
Actually, he could have before. On balance, the jobs created here by Foreign-owned corporations outnumber jobs done abroad for American-owned companies, resulting in a net insourcing. Airbus would be just one of many companies already here employing US workers.
GSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3344 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5849 times:
In the Greenville/Spartanburg area, we have a high concentraction of European businesses either directly manufacturing (BMW, Bosch, Michelin) or having major distribution facilities. We also have an industrial area at Donaldson Center (former AFB) that currently has a Lockheed Martin facility for overhauling aircraft....
ORDagent From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 823 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5705 times:
I don't think we will see Airbus tankers. With all the commotion about supposedly illegal subsidies this would make a HUGE target for protectionist polititions claiming we are selling out the U.S. industry to the Europeans.
Burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7865 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5635 times:
In Phoenix, there's plenty of room for expansion to accomodate an Airbus factory. With America West soon becoming the 2nd-largest North American operator of Airbus, it only makes sense.
Well America West is fourth in the North Americas with fleet size, NW is number one with 160 Airbuses, so a place like Detroit, Minneapolis, heck even Memphis would work if you want to look at carriers with large buses, NW has double the amount of buses that HP has, so more likely someone closer to NW hubs, would be more likely, hell, maybe even IND?
NWAFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1893 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5622 times:
I was thinking the same thing...Look at Boeing's decision to move from SEA to the ORD area to be closer to UA and AA....NWA has the largest AirBus Fleet of US carriers, and it is growing and will continue to grow for many many years.
With UA and HP also AirBus operators, you would think that near the midwest or between midwest and Southwest would make sense!
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Cloudy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5162 times:
It all make sense because of the low US$, 7 year-low against my local currency.
You don't make long term moves like this because of currency fluctuations between industrialized countries. The currency market simply changes too much. This is just a signal by Airbus that they are serioius about building A330 tankers in the US if they get the deal. Airbus's salespeople are very aggressive and look at the long term potential of possible deals. It appears that Boieng is much weaker in this area.
BH346 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3265 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4833 times:
The Wichita Eagle tends to be fairly critical of Boeing as of late. There has been an image of doom and gloom for Boeing Wichita. While it would be disappointing to see Boeing end its long presence in Wichita, having a subcontractor run the Boeing Wichita facilities could be better for our local economy in the long run if a solid company like GKN or Vought purhcases the plant. The future for Boeing seems to rest with subcontracting work. Look at St. Louis and the GKN plant, things seem to work out well.
While it would be nice to see Airbus create some new jobs around here, I don't think Wichita is a shoe-in. I think that there would be many other communities in the country that would offer very competitive deals for a large aircraft plant, if Airbus were to establish one in the United States. The Southwest and the South in particular are seeing some growth in aerospace and they could probably allow Airbus or anyone for that matter to take advantage of the lower taxes and costs that tend to be there as well as offering something to sweeten the deal. As someone who lives in Wichita, I think that diversifying the local economy is more important...the area is too dependent on aerospace, which has been demonstrated well with the recent economic downturn.
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