FrontierCPT From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 973 posts, RR: 8 Posted (8 years 7 months 1 day ago) and read 1989 times:
Hey everyone! For the third time, UA has changed my itinerary. Insteadof having about two hours to transfer to my flight to DEN, then to STL, my flight from BUR was changed to an earlier, flight, and my flight to DEN was changed to a later flight. So, now I get into SFO from BUR at 9:36AM, and don't depart for DEN until 2:00PM( on a 777!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!). What all can I do, besides spotting, which I obviously plan on doing? Is it easy to go to the other terminals without exiting security? Or should I just hang out in the UA terminal? Is it easy to swing over to the Skywest remote terminal( my dad flies for them, and I love regionals)? Is there anything else a 13 year old plane geek can do? I was thinking I might hop on BART, and go to Pittsburgh(not PA) and see my brother for a little bit, but I don't want to risk missing my first 777 flight! Or, I might head south, and see my friend. But, what do you guys recommend me doing for four( around) hours? Thanks in advance!
As739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5819 posts, RR: 23 Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 22 hours ago) and read 1930 times:
Sean-well there are a few options. I'd go check out the aviation museum in the international terminal. Its on the other side from United, but worth the little walk. Also, as of right now due to change in the contracts, the best food it in the international food courts. Take the airtrain around few times. You get some very good view as well as good pics if you have a good lens. You can also take the Airtrain to the car rental and get soem good shots of departing heavys. You won't get to see the bulk of them since most of them leave after noon. Uniteds terminal will have the best view of the international G concourse. Most activity before 1pm is on the north (G) side of the international terminal. Anymore questions drop me a line!
I doubt you can make it up to Pittsburg and back in time, to risky!
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FrontierCPT From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 973 posts, RR: 8 Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 22 hours ago) and read 1887 times:
Sfointern- I'm 13, lol, I don't think that my mom would approve of me taking a cab to downtown SFO alone, lol, it was fine when we lived there( but then again, I was only 3, and I never rode cabs anyways, lol). That would be fun and all, but I think I would much rather enjoy planes, and spot, hehe.
Hawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3091 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 1795 times:
I would call United and see if they can adjust your itinerary so that your connections are a little more reasonable. Either a later flight BUR-SFO, or better yet, take one of the BUR-DEN nonstop flights. Since this is the result of a United schedule change, they should not charge you.
BH346 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3265 posts, RR: 17 Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 1769 times:
I haven't been to SFO, but I imagine there would be plenty to do in a large airport like that. Watch the heavies at the International Terminal, get something to eat, browse some shops, check out the regional terminal, and it should be about time for you to board. Considering it's a 777, I'll probably board fairly early. However, if you would rather reschedule, call United and see if they can reschedule you. They should be able to do it without charge since it was a reschedule.
BTW, if you take the flight, enjoy the 777. It's a great plane
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Jfrworld From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 362 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 1726 times:
I just hope they don't change out the 777 on the 2pm SFO - DEN leg. I flew that flight last month. I purposely booked that flight for the chance to fly a 777, but UA switched out the 777 for a 747-400 that week. Although I wasn't disappointed about flying the 747, I did have my heart set on the 777.
Cschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1031 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 17 hours ago) and read 1665 times:
The United terminal has good views of landing aircraft as they taxi off the runway. Since you wouldn't have a boarding pass to get into other concourses (such as the south terminal with good views of planes heading to takeoff on runway 1) that's not an option. There's also a store with models of planes (or used to be - I haven't been there in several years) in the rotunda of the United concourse.
Ua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 13 Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 16 hours ago) and read 1649 times:
I really suggest you do what you would normally do in an airport. Just look around. I was in SF today actually. If you are willing to take the chance of leaving the airport the city has a bunch of cool stuff. BART is pricy (Orinda-Powell St.-Orinda=6.90) but if you jump on BART from SFO and head to Powell St. you can snoop around the San Francisco Shopping Centre. It's a 29min. ride and will cost you $9.90 Round Trip. Lot's of cool shopping/food but if you leave the Mall watch your pocket, very tourest friendly so this brings pick-pocketers around all the time.
Getting to Pittsburg/Bay Point is impossible with your time. It's a 1hr 15min ride and will cost you $14.90 round trip. I live in Orinda which isn't too far past Powell St. so if your stuck feel free to stop in O-Town for a while. Not much here just coffee, house wifes, SUV's, and a lot of "nothing to do" time.
The next suggestion which is even better is to get on BART and take it to Millbrae. It's a $3.00 Round Trip and will take 5min. Exit the station to Rollins Rd. Which is at the end and to the right of the bus stations at the bottom of the stairs apon exiting the station. Cross the street and contiue North East on East Millbrae Ave. you will have to cross the freeway (101) which you can only do on the right side of the freeway/street. They will be nice and stop just give it time. Continue for about 5 min. until the street ends. There's a great grassy area/park that is probably 100yrds from the 10R/L runways and is a great place to view departures.
Just do the same thing to find your way back to BART. The only thing is is that BART departs every 15-20 for the Millbrae-SFO-Millbrae route. To get to Millbrae just take the Millbrae trian and to get to SFO take the Pittsburg/Bay Point Train, it WILL stop at SFO first.
Again I'm always here if your out of ideas and seeing how Orinda has the name of Borinda I have a lot of time on my hands.
Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7631 posts, RR: 28 Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 15 hours ago) and read 1614 times:
Lot's of cool shopping/food but if you leave the Mall watch your pocket, very tourest friendly so this brings pick-pocketers around all the time.
LOL this seems to be a problem only for those who filter in from the suburbs with big targets on their backs. For those of us in the city, it's funny to even consider the idea of being pick-pocketed in that area.
Frontier, I *highly* recommend the aviation museum in the International Terminal. Ask one of the friendly volunteer guides in the terminal how to find it - it's tucked away in a corner and unless you know your way around the building you might miss it wandering around on your own. It's a very nice museum and I'm sure you won't be disappointed. Beware of the international food court btw - unless you can stomach paying $9 for sandwiches, it's not much in the way of affordable lunch faire.
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Ua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 13 Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 15 hours ago) and read 1601 times:
I don't take too kindly to your comments about my being a "big target". I just said that b/c about 4 months ago I was approached by a man who was pick pocketed infront of Macy's while shopping. This was in Union Square which is just as crouded as Market and Powell. I do agree about the food. I got a "snack" before I headed in and it was a salad and drink and it was something like 16.50!
Timz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6466 posts, RR: 8 Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 8 hours ago) and read 1514 times:
"There's a great grassy area/park that is probably 100yrds from the 10R/L runways and is a great place to view departures."
Runway 1R, he means. The east end of Millbrae Ave is maybe 3/4 mile from BART, and if you've ever seen a plane take off you won't see anything new there. I'd say the view from the peoplemover stations in the terminal area is about as good as any.
FrontierCPT From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 973 posts, RR: 8 Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1348 times:
Oh, sorry I didn't clarify, but I'm one of those people who want to make any extra connections, and plus, I get a few hundred extra miles than going straight to DEN, and I absolutely hate(more than I hate women) one-stop flights! Ya, I think I will just amuse myself within the airport, I mean, I saw so much stuff when we lived there, and my brother still does live there, so not much for me to want to see in the city, but thanks for all of this information!
Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7631 posts, RR: 28 Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1323 times:
Sorry if you're offended 777222, but if you lived in the city, you'd understand how amusing the outright absence of street smarts among the suburban shoppers is.
Re the runways, it's unusual for anyone to refer to SFO's longest pair by 10L/R. To almost everyone they are the 28s as that's the direction/assignment most often in use. And yes, the runways *nearest* to the bayfront park are 1L/R but it's nothing special unless you have a heavy going off them. 2 pm is a good time of day - you get a domestic UA 744 and 777 within about 15-20 minutes of one another. Nothing but a boring parade of 733s, A320s and CRJs most of the day.
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SFOFF From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 59 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1252 times:
SFO has the aviation museum, plus many other museum displays. Go to www.sfoarts.org for a map and list of exhibits. Eat at the international terminal, the food is a lot better, The restaurants are branches of real restaurants in San Francisco. If you like hamburgers be sure to go to the "Burger Joint" near the aviation museum. That was my fave.
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FrontierCPT From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 973 posts, RR: 8 Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1157 times:
Tarytoons-nothing really, but I just seem to enjoy flying on new aircraft, that I have never flown before, especially since I probably will never get the chance to since I don't fly anywhere where 777's happen to fly.
Tarytoons From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 19 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1137 times:
I can appreciate that. I just wasn't sure if there was something that makes the 777 unique. I LOVE all things aviation, but my knowledge base is still very limited ( I don't hardly know nuttin' !) =)
Just thought I'd ask...T