N670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1606 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 5 days ago) and read 13702 times:
Most flagship routes (like transoceanic and transcontinental flights) keep the same flight numbers all the time - but, at least for most U.S. carriers, flight numbers for general, non-flagship flights are assigned randomly by airlines' computer systems.
FLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 13628 times:
It depend on the airline organization and "logic"...!
Concerning Air France :
AF001 was Concorde JFK-CDG
AF002 was Concorde CDG-JFK
These flight numbers are not used anymore since the retirement of the supersonic last year.
The flight numbers depend on the destinations :
AF0XX : USA
AF3XX : Canada an USA
AF4XX : Central and South America / Carribean
AF2XX : Asia
AF1XX : Asia
AF5XX : Middle East
AF6XX : French Overseas Departements : FDF / PTP / RUN / CAY
AF7XX : Africa
AF8XX : Africa
AF9XX : Africa
AF1XXX to AF5XXX : Europe & Domestic flights
except 39XX = Local Carribean network
8XXX to 9XXX : Flight operated by Skyteam partner or foreign airline codeshare agreement.
Cory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2692 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 13550 times:
CO's flight numbers are pretty regular. Either the first two or last two digits of the flight number are the same for all the flights on a route, with the exception of those flights that are part of international flights (i.e. some flights EWR-LAX, EWR-SFO, and EWR-IAH). Usually, the numbers in one direction will be one higher than the other direction.
Anything under 100 is either international or long haul (EWR-HNL or IAH-OGG, for example).
For example, EWR-SJU is 19XX, with odd endings on the southbound and evens on the northbound.
EWR-LAX is XX03, and LAX-EWR is XX02 (for the most part).
ETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 13323 times:
At Ethiopian Airlines, the numbering is as follows:
ET3XX: Dire Dawa (only those continuing on to JIB and HGA), Djibouti and Somalia
ET4XX: North Africa and Middle East (Excluding Dubai)
ET5XX: United States
ET6XX: Dubai, Indian Subcontinent and Far East
ET8XX: East and Southern Africa
ET9XX: West Africa
Cargo flights have 4 digits, with the first one being a '3', the second one being one of the identifiers above. Charter/extra flights have the same number as the above preceded by a '1'.
KEno From Malaysia, joined Feb 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 27
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 13036 times:
For Malaysia Airlines, the numberings are :-
MH 0001-0049 Europe
MH 0050-0089 Japan, Korea, Hong Kong/Taiwan (from KUL)
MH 0090-0099 North America
MH 0100-0149 Oceania
MH 0150-0199 Middle East & Indian Subcontinent
MH 0200-0299 Africa & South America
MH 0300-0399 China, Hong Kong/Taiwan (from BKI/KCH)
MH 0600-0699 Singapore
MH 0700-0999 Southeast Asia
MH 1000-1999 Domestic : Peninsular Malaysia
MH 2000-2999 Domestic : Borneo mainline
MH 3000-3999 Domestic : Borneo rural service
MH 9000-9199 codeshares : KL (Kul-Ams), OS, MK, TG, KE, KA, GA, QR, HY & UL
MH 9200-9299 codeshares : KL (Scandinavian sectors)
MH 9400-9699 codeshares : BD (UK domestic sectors)
MH 9700-9999 codeshares : CX, VN & BI
Odd numbers are inbound, even numbers are outbound.
Geoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 12983 times:
"CO's flight numbers are pretty regular"
Well, some of them are. Now you mention the last digit, it does appear that some routes do follow this convention. Ignoring ex-International flights (ie two digit numbers), many do end in the same number. Others appear to be completely random:
PiedmontCowboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 12819 times:
Back in the late 80's, Delta reorganized all of its flight numbers - probably after a new computer system was implemented. (Can somebody confirm this?) Anyhoo, I remember you would know the type of aircraft that was used based on the flight number. Examples:
Clipper002 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 679 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 12731 times:
There is no "law" regarding the numbering of flights. At Pan Am even numbers were East and Northbound and odd numbers west and southbound. Flights in the 40's were to Scandanavia, the 70"s to Germany, the 90's to other European countries, the 100's to LHR, the 110's to the mid east, 120's were polar trips, 160's cargo, 200's were the Carribean and S. America from JFK and 400's the same only from MIA.
Here at World, my job is to assign flight numbers to the flights that I schedule. I still use the same even/odd basis but use 8000 series for AMC trips, 900's for ferry flights and then just arbitrarily assign flight numbers to the remaining flights. When we're flying ACMI for a customer, we will use their call sign and flight numbers.
L1011Lover From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 989 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12402 times:
...I have one question: Didn´t Delta adopt the Pan Am flight numbering system for its international transatlantic/European and India flights???
I remember one of the JFK-FRA flights being flt.# DL72, while the other one (which is the one still going JFK-FRA) was DL106 (continuing on to BOM).
Were these PA´s flt.numbers from JFK to FRA?
Also JFK-MUC used to be DL76, while IAD-FRA was DL60 and LAX-FRA was DL58. Most of those FRA flights have been cancelled after the shut down of the FRA Mini hub.
Some of the flight numbers however are still in use for other European flights.
DL72 for instance is now JFK-IST (nonstop service) while it used to be JFK-FRA-IST until 1998.
DL60 for instance was later used for ATL-HAM and then retired after the route has been axed.
9V-SPJ From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11358 times:
001-050 are American Flights
050-100 are Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam flights
100-200 are Malaysian and Indonesian Flgihts
200-300 are Australia and New Zealand
300-400 are European
400-500 are Indian Subcontinent, Middle East, Africa
800-900 are China including HK, South Korea and Taiwan
900-1000 are Japanese Flights.
Ckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11257 times:
With U.S. carriers, westbound or southbound flights usually end in an odd number, while eastbound or northbound flights usually end in an even number.
I know at AA, the trans-Atlantic and trans-Pacific flights are either single digits, double digits, or 100 series.
Flights between ORD and LGA are 300 series, and flights between ORD and DFW are either 2200 or 2300 series. My guess is that these are flights that need priority handling (high-yield and connecting traffic), hence the regular series of flight numbers.
OD-BWH From Kuwait, joined Jan 2002, 399 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10822 times:
As far as I know, MEA uses the following numbering:
ME2XX in flights to Europe
ME3XX in flights to the Middle East and North Africa
ME4XX in flights to the Gulf Region
ME5XX in flights to West Africa
ME6XX in flights to the Far East/Australia
ME7XX in flights to North America/South America
ME1XXX in extra or charter flights...
Clipper002 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 679 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10759 times:
Yes, DL did adopt the original PA flight numbers. However 106 used to run IAD/LHR, not JFK/FRA. This flight was also run on several interchanges with DL and NA for continuing service out of IAD. I never did hear of the reasoning as to why the retained the flight numbers but can guess that they were aware of the familiarity throughout the frequent fliers on these routes.