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FlyBE To Operate 737-300 And 7 New Routes From BHX  
User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3052 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9429 times:

FlyBE have today annouced they will be operating the 737 and launched seven new destinations from BHX.

They will be operating to:

Alicante
Faro
Murcia
Almeria
Malaga
Palma
Geneva

This will take them head to head with MyTravellite and BMI Baby and is quite a change from their usual busines destinations at BHX they currently operate.

Press Release

Flybe. announces 7 new routes, 430,000 extra seats at Birmingham International Airport
25th October 2004
Flybe., Europe’s third largest low cost airline today announces seven new European routes from Birmingham International Airport, adding 430,000 seats into the market, taking its total seat capacity at Birmingham to two million seats. This consolidates flybe’s position as Birmingham’s largest single scheduled carrier.

Simultaneously flybe. is announcing that it will deploy its first ever 150 seat jet capacity – Boeing 737-300’s – to fly these routes from Birmingham. This confirms Birmingham as a major centre of operation for flybe.

Flybe. will offer these new services from Birmingham to Alicante, Malaga, Murcia, Faro, Palma, Almeria and Geneva. With prices starting from £39 all inclusive, tickets are on sale today at www.flybe.com (except Geneva which will be on sale in late June 2005). Flights to Spain and Portugal begin in March 2005.

The new routes follow hot on the heels of flybe.’s recent announcement of new French routes, and the addition of Liverpool John Lennon airport to its network of UK bases. This follows flybe.’s most successful year to date with the recent announcement of provisional profit figures for the financial year 2003/2004 of £3.1m.

Flybe.’s move is part of its ongoing commitment to providing an unrivalled low cost airline service to all the major regional population centres of the UK. The Midlands is a buoyant regional economy which flybe. expansion should help to grow further. Flybe. thanks Birmingham International Airport and the wider Midlands business community for the work done to aid with its aggressive expansion plans in the region.

The launch of the new routes out of Birmingham are part of flybe.’s ambitious summer schedule for 2005/6 which will be announced later this year and forms part of the airline’s overall strategy of continued investment and expansion of both its domestic and international route network.

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Mike Rutter, Sales and Marketing Director, flybe., commented: ‘Opening up the gateway to Europe for flyers in the Midlands has always been a priority for us, and we are delighted to announce our plans today. It’s good news for the local economy, and also a great new way for people in the Midlands to access mainland Europe for business or leisure. Whilst many of our competitors are route cutting and retrenching back to London, flybe. is expanding in the regions and is committed to bringing flights to your door.

‘As a result of these announcements CBI figures suggest that 430 jobs will be created in the Midlands economy, of which 25 will be created directly at flybe.’

Flybe. has always been committed to Birmingham and the Midlands, which is witnessed by its recent announcement of the largest sports sponsorship deal in Midlands history as it extended its deal as major club sponsor with Birmingham City, by a further two years to 2007.

‘With Birmingham now fully integrated into flybe.’s European network we’re going to be looking at adding more routes and more capacity over time – increased competition in the marketplace can only be good news for travellers from the Midlands. Flybe. will seek to add up to a further three 737’s over the next 24 months.

‘Birmingham International Airport has made this partnership possible, and we would like to acknowledge the efforts made by the BIA business development team to make these routes possible.’

Peter Vella, BIA’s Business Development Director said, “Flybe. has been an important part of the Airport’s development and success over the past 10 years and we are therefore delighted that it has decided to expand its Birmingham base in this way. The news not only demonstrates confidence in BIA, but also in the region, helping to create new jobs, support inward tourism, and offer Midlands' business and leisure travellers even more choice from Birmingham.”




[Edited 2004-10-25 11:58:49]

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User currently offlineSQNo1 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 687 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9294 times:

Great news!

Is it now the beginning of the end of their BAE146s. Apparently with their 3-3 seating arrangment, they are extremely cramped.


User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9289 times:

Just received the same press release. When did they order the 737's? Can find nothing on the website - and are they leased or bought?

7LBAC111



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User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9290 times:

This is a great move by FlyBE and they always said they would defend their position as one of Birminghams leading LCC.

They offer an excellent service that very few other LCC can match and as they have lauched these routes well in advanced of the winter season will probably be able to steal some business from the other carriers.

The midlands now is becoming very saturated with LCC fly to Spain and Portugal with:

EMA
BMI Baby
easyJet

BHX
Monarch Scheduled
MyTravelLite
BMI Baby
FlyBE

CVT
Hapag Lloyd Express
ThomsonFly


User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3762 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9250 times:

FR fly into EMA aswell.
Will flybe offer seat allocation on these services?


User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9224 times:

Richardw

I can't see flyBE changing the whole process because of a type change. One of the reasons I choose flyBE / BMIBaby over Easyjet / Ryanair is because I like to have a seat pre-assigned. Call me old fashioned....

7LBAC111



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User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9217 times:




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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9199 times:

"FR fly into EMA aswell."

Indeedy! They fly to DUB, GRO, MJV and, starting on 7th February, CIA.

I find it odd that BE will acquire ANOTHER type of aircraft. Talk about commonalty, efficiency, cost-reduction... still, from the consumer's point-of-view, the additional choice - and hopefully low prices - will be beneficial.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9127 times:

I thought SOU was unable to handle the 737 on a regular basis due to the runway length and size of the facilities.

I thought the occasional 737 charter from Air Europa or EuroCypria put a struggle on the facilities and had to be specially timed not to arrive during their busy period.

I think Exeter may see some 737's as the Mini Hub there FlyBE has been operating is doing very well and they can comfortably handle the 737. This will free up some of the BAe 146's to be operated from Southampton.

Since when have airlines been able to obtain "Brand New" 737-300's, a their website states? As easyJet is disposing of their older 737-300's over the coming month's this could be where they are obtaining them from.

At the moment they have only made this one press release and everything else is speculation!


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9103 times:

"I think Exeter may see some 737's as the Mini Hub there FlyBE has been operating is doing very well and they can comfortably handle the 737."

Definitely! An empty 741/2 landed there the other week for storage. There's also the occasional, by which I mean yearly or biannual, 767 movement.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9094 times:

Also Exeter gets a weekly A310 charter from Air Transit to Toronto via BHX.

User currently offlineEuropean From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9059 times:

Gilesdavies,

I have seen a Britannia 757-200 land very easily at Southampton with quite a bit of runway to spare!


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So i don't really see a problem with a 737!
Don't really know though!

European


User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9057 times:

I find it odd that BE will acquire ANOTHER type of aircraft. Talk about commonalty, efficiency, cost-reduction... still, from the consumer's point-of-view, the additional choice - and hopefully low prices - will be beneficial

Probably a short term (few years) lease/patch until an NG aircraft replaces the 146s. I would think.



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User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9047 times:

Can someone more informed than I maybe advise us mere enthusiasts how much more it will cost BE to operate the 733 over the 146/Q400 type? Will it maybe cost less? If so can you expect to see lower fares on the routes from BHX?

7LBAC111



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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 8988 times:

European, as you may know, the 757 can land just about anywhere thanks to it's amazing performance, hence it can operate from shorter runways than, say a 737 or A320 can/


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User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 8953 times:

GKirk is right, a light 757 beats the 737 hands down performance-wise, took a 752 SOU-PMI in Jul '03 it was great fun!


I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7303 posts, RR: 57
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8918 times:

The seat costs on a 733 are on par with at Dash8-400... however with two 733's in the fleet expect punctuality to plummet if anything happens.

Flybe are really throwing down the gauntlet to BMIBaby, who are now suffering from competition everywhere..... Will baby survive this winter?



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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8901 times:

Rick767, a heavy 757 also beats a 737 hands down in performance also as I recently witnessed in TFS  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


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User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8885 times:

Can we get back on topic of flyBE 737's perchance?


Debate is what you put on de hook when you want to catch de fish.
User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8813 times:

oK 7LBAC111, Im gonna guess they'll be ex easyJet or ex Ryanair 733s  Big grin


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User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8800 times:

Lol - thanks GKirk - am having a moody Monday morning!

I wonder will this be a change of direction for BE to become a true LCC and less of a regional.domestic operator?

Mark



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8705 times:

"Im gonna guess they'll be ex easyJet or ex Ryanair 733s."

Possibly, as FR will be offering its 733s for lease from this December. Wasn't Jet2 after 6 machines? And FR has 6...



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3762 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8686 times:

ex FR B733s, are they the ex Buzz ones who happen to be ex....?

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8633 times:

'Ex FR B733s, are they the ex Buzz ones who happen to be ex....?'

What are you trying to say? That they've changed hands a few times? Aircraft changing hands. Well I never.  Wink/being sarcastic



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8608 times:

Damn those slutty 733s  Wink/being sarcastic  Wink/being sarcastic


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
25 BCAL : BHX Monarch Scheduled I cannot see any Monarch Scheduled services operating from BHX - have they recently announced these?
26 BestWestern : Rumour is that the aircraft will be ex Go models, delivered new ex Boeing, so the aircraft wont be that 'slutty' (Go -> easy -> flybe) I just hope the
27 Gilesdavies : Error on my part - Monarch only operates charters and NO scheduled services from BHX. If one of the 733's goes Tech I am sure a 146-300 can do the job
28 BestWestern : A whole Dash 8-300's passenger load less!
29 ScottishLaddie : The FR/ Buzz B733s are going to bmibaby. Not suer if they all are, if not all a fair percentage of them.
30 Klmyank : I heard from a mate who flies at Flybe that the initial aircraft is a wetlease from Astreus, operated in Flybe colors. Their own aircraft will come la
31 BestWestern : That makes a lot more sense than operating a two aircraft subfleet. Perhaps in 2005 we will see FlyBe ordering a 146 / 733 replacement - potentially t
32 Richardw : I was making the point that the ex FR B733s may be the ex Buzz aircraft, one of which I flew on STN-PAU-STN for a very good weekend away, of which Buz
33 BestWestern : The UKA aircraft came from Continental... Some of the FR 733 fleet is a mixture of CO/UKA/FR logos... Lowcost indeed.
34 Post contains links and images FJWH : After this thread I checked the website http://www.flybe.com and found out that FlyBe is flying to PGF from 5 freakin' destinations in England !! (I (
35 CKT523 : Well if the first a/c is to be leased from AEU, god help the passengers unless they do some MAJOR work on the interiors, not just cover the seats. Tho
36 STARCREW : will be interesting to see what happens at BHX. Will bmibaby battle it out with flybe ?or will they retreat back to EMA which isn't really very far aw
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