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Why No 744s For Emirates?  
User currently offlineTradewindL1011 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 179 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

Hello All,

I am curious as to why Emirates has opted not to order the 747-400. They clearly have a need for the capacity by ordering every other large widebody in existance. They have even ordered 43 A380s, clearly showing their need for ultra high capacity airframes. So my question is, prior to ordering the A380, why would Emirates choose to not get the 747? Would it not be profitable for them to at least lease some 744s until the A388 arrives? Mr curiosity in the subject has been growing after seeing their recent fleet acquisitions and orders (as well as potential orders) for future aircraft, I am rather surprised that they havn't utilized the capacity and range of the 747-400.

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User currently offlineAirgeek12 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3021 times:

I think because the U.A.E. is to small to fly them in. I'm just kidding- and in fact I LOVE the U.A.E.!

I think because they have all their new services and seat products and sutch, and they have a big contract with Airbus for their 346s.

Although a 744 for EM would be kool- I personally think they're better of with the 346. It has wayyyy better fuel compacity to carry the scurrying people out of the middle east!

Once again!...just kidding! (I, think)


User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1621 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3017 times:

Interesting question.

Perhaps it is because they are a growing airline, and only recently have seen the need for a plane bigger than the 777?

I think they do have some B744 freighters flying for them though.


User currently offlineTradewindL1011 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3006 times:

Sorry, I should have clarrified - passenger 747-400s. This also brings up an interesting topic, would EK be interested in the 747Adv? As Boeing is touting, this would be a good aircraft to opporate between the size capacity of the A388 and the 773. Just some thoughts.

-Trent


User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2961 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

The 773ER and A346 are newer in design, technology, and fit into EK's fleet better than a stand-alone 744.
EK already is an operator for A332, A343, & A345 which have pilot-commonality and engine-commonality with A345.
The 773ER fits with existing 772, 772ER, & 773 though engines will be different.
However with the selection of GE/PW engine for A380 there will some synergies with the 773ER engine as the core will be similar.
Sounds like a very good strategy for a very well run airline.


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4793 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2867 times:

If EK were going to order B 744s they would done it between 1994-96 when they ordered dozens of A 332s and B 777s but didnt because at that time they werent concentrating on capacity but instead focused on increasing route frequencies which they thought would be better off in the long run such as having a daily flight to a key city with B 777s rather than 3-4 weekly B 744s.

Though EK was pretty well known between 94-97 in the airline world, their demand scales and pax numbers on almost all their routes barring LHR and India wouldnt have needed the extra pax capacity offered by the B 744. In anycase, they must have 100% done a study on the B 744 and found that operating a 2 class B 773 with 434 seats or even a 3 class B 773 with 380 seats would be a more cost efficient and profitable option to fly on long haul and medium haul routes.


User currently onlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7107 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2656 times:

Because they have the 773. I love the 744 and I hope the 747Advanced will be a big hit, but at the moment, the 773 and 346 are the newer and more modern machines around.

User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2251 times:

But EK always has ordered the A380

It is queer though. I always thought that EK wanted purely Airbus fleets for PAX and thus stayed away from ordering Boeing planes. But the 777 fleet proved me wrong. Do you think they will trade them in like SQ? Like A343 vs 777 and Airbus or either Boeing buys it out for them?



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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4793 posts, RR: 43
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2196 times:

No theyre not going to trade any aircraft!!!

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