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Airline Mergers; Does Size Matter?  
User currently offlineWilax From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 465 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 2376 times:

Has any airline ever bought out a larger airline and absorbed it into itself?

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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5725 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 2346 times:

Texas international bought out Continental Airlines (Texas Int'l was something like 12-13 times smaller than CO at the time.) We all know how that turned out....


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User currently offlineIsp From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 15 hours ago) and read 2312 times:

US Air bought Piedmont

User currently offline727200er From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 14 hours ago) and read 2300 times:

PWA bought CPAir and created Canadian

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User currently offlineAzul320 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 14 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

Sounds like a topic for Sex in the City...
Many carriers have swallowed up other airlines. NONE of which are making money I might add. So size must not matter, it's the motion in the ocean...but it takes a long time to get to England in a row boat.



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User currently offlineTbanger From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 12 hours ago) and read 2263 times:

Ansett was bought by Air New Zealand and look how that turned out. No offence ANZ or Ansett fans, BUT ANZ was quite small and extremely efficient in it's operation and Ansett was the bleeding giant. It was doomed from the start. Unfortuneately for me, I was with them when it all went pair shaped.

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User currently offlineEwr767 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 2207 times:

We just a leter from gordon stating that he would like to merge co with ua. But that ua wasnt interested. Here is party of an email i recieved.


he has had talks with UA about a merger but, so far, they aren't
>interested. he said they are still in deep denial about their situation and
>that they would have to face reality and do what needs to be done before we
>would be interested. he said their staffing is bad and that they have 3
>pilots when they only need 2 or 2.5. he said if things worked out (about
>20% chance) a combined CO/UA would crush everyone else. his drift was that
>we would come in at the very last moment as a "white knight" and put it
>together.


User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 2 hours ago) and read 2188 times:

Delta and Western

AA and TWA

TWA and Ozark

Northwest and Republic

As far as CO and UA....I really don't see Gordon going in and taking on the burden of becoming a "white knight" for anybody. That's not to say he wouldn't be the first at the doors of the fire sale. How would he handle the seniority issues? He'd either have a bunch of pissed of "new" employees from UA, or a bunch of pissed off "old" employees at CO. And that's just for starters. I don't think he'd be willing to put CO deep in debt by taking on the debts and obligations of United. If he does....then his legacy as one of the greatest CEO's ever would be greatly diminished. But....the man does have an ego...so the question is...would the ego outweigh common sense.


User currently offlineWilax From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 465 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

I guess I should clarify;

Has a small airline ever bought a larger airline, and the larger one took the smaller's name?

for example: Airtran buys United and becomes one huge Airtran.


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5725 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

So far really, the only ones have been, Texas Int'l and Conitnental.

Delta was almost the same size, albeit a tad bigger that Western when the merger happened.

AA was already the biggest airline in the world when it bought out TWA.

TWA was several times larger than Ozark when they tied the knot.

Northwest and republic were virtually the same size (albeit NW was MUCH more int'l than domestic, and vice versa for Republic).

IMHO, CO buying out UA would not seem possible, seeing as to how Gordon has already just meshed things out at CO due to a merger almost that size (Remember, CO bought Peoplexpress, New York Air, PBA and Fronter and merged them all in one day.) Gordo would have his hands extremely full, and it would just be a repeat of the CO/Texas Air disaster.



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User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

WesternA318-I'm pretty sure that, when American bought TWA, that United was bigger than them, and United would have regained that spot if they had completed their ill-fated acquisition attempt of US Airways...


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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5725 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2022 times:

United lost its claim back in 1998 and failed to regain it as of yet.


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User currently offlineSNBA From France, joined Oct 2004, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2018 times:

And what about SN Brussels Airlines & Virgin Express (about the same sizes...)?

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