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Most Lucrative Routes For Carriers?  
User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4889 times:

What are the most lucrative routes for all the majors? Where could I find a top 10 for each carrier? Based on class? Thanks!

AA777jr

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User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6725 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4837 times:

I am not sure that information is going to be generally available for business reasons... why tell the competition?

I have read in the past that AA's ORD-MAN flight is one of their most successful and profitable ones, but that was a few years ago.

You could try asking the airlines themselves.



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User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4800 times:

Far and away, CO's most profitable route is EWR-TLV. Between their two flights, they are able to fill 96 J seats with paid pax on a routine basis.

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19229 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4737 times:

One of BA's and, presumably, VS's most lucrative routes is LHR-LOS. I assume BA's LHR-ABV and VS's LHR-PHC are also lucrative. In fact, most flights to West, East and Southern Africa (except South Africa) are normally very expensive.


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User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4703 times:

For AF it is Luanda PER FLIGHT but they are only allowed to operate the route once a week so it's probably somewhere like Abidjan or Libreville that does best for them.

User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4105 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4685 times:

UA............PACIFIC!!!! Big grin

User currently offlineSrbrenna From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4674 times:

That was Pan Am's most profitable one as well. I take it that UA will be selling that to get a bit of cash? It certainly worked for PA

User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4597 times:

Isn't CDG-JFK or LHR-JFK profitable ?


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User currently offlineATLhomeCMH From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 770 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4582 times:

This topic about "cash cow" routes has been beat into the ground. There were just two forums on it last month. Just a friendly reminder to do a search next time  Smile


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User currently offlineJfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3471 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4563 times:

ATLhomeCMH,
Maybe somebody wanted to talk about this topic now. I suppose because it's been disscussed many times in the past--we can no longer talk about it? If that's the case how come I keep hearing W. tell us how good the war in Iraq is going?

JFK-LHR
JFK-LAX
JFK-SFO
LGA-ORD

To name a few.



User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4549 times:

Codeshare: Absolutely, the trans-Atlantic gateways are traditionally very profitable for airlines. However, with the extensive competition by the European and American airlines, profits (especially in Economy) are somewhat watered down removing the possibility of them being the most profitable routes for the companies.

On that note however, I do believe JFK-LHR is one of AA's most profitable routes, and that's why they also provide a 'shuttle' much like BA, with 6 daily flights.

LH423



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User currently offlineDAL7001 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4535 times:

DL - anywhere Airtran does'nt fly. Honestly being a DL employee I would not comment too much on that. "IMO"


KATL
User currently offlineDens From Switzerland, joined Sep 2001, 309 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4497 times:

Hello,

For Swiss, I heard that the Geneva- New York route, which is called "United Nations Bus" is very lucrative. This flight is everyday full in F and C and often in Y.
Another LX route which was very profiatble is the Zurich-Malabo route.

Regards

Dens


User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4454 times:

Nice-Paris at 445 Euros ( 500 $ ) roundtrip for 1 hour flight in eco-no service !( sorry -you get water or coffee..)



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User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4967 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4445 times:

I don't have the figures, but I'm pretty sure that for IB one of the most lucrative routes is MAD-EZE. What do you think?


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User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4433 times:

ZHR-SSG??? Profitable???  Wow! Obiang must be the biggest corrupt in Africa... How many differents bank accounts do he might to have in Switzerland???

For IB, MEX and JFK are very profitables, with a very good occupation ratio in Buz.
In the AF'case all routes towards Japan and of course, the typical Paris-Montreal


User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4421 times:

Far and away, CO's most profitable route is EWR-TLV. Between their two flights, they are able to fill 96 J seats with paid pax on a routine basis.

What a/c do they operate on this route, and why is it so profitable?

Doesn't AA operate more frequent routes from ORD-LHR than any other gateway city in Europe? Wouldn't that be most profitable since they can route a ton of their business traffic through ORD?

AA777jr


User currently offlineATLhomeCMH From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 770 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4401 times:

Jfklganyc:

Maybe somebody wanted to talk about this topic now.
That's perfectly fine. Just gets old seeing the same stuff over and over...and over...and over again. That's why I've stopped starting forums w/ WN as the topic b/c no matter what it is, it always turns into a mudslinging fest.

I suppose because it's been disscussed many times in the past--we can no longer talk about it?

Ok Mr. Sensitive. I don't know where I said that, but there are certain topics that are talked about TOO much.

If that's the case how come I keep hearing W. tell us how good the war in Iraq is going?

Now I agree with you there. I know from firsthand experience it's not going that great.



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User currently offlineRaybolt From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 255 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4390 times:

EWR-TLV is two B772s daily.


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User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4376 times:

EWR-TLV? How does this do so well? What is load factor on those flights please?

User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 34
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4363 times:

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but for BD, their most profiable route is LHR-BHD with 8 rotations a day. The flights are generally close to full all day every day.

However there used to be 16 flights a day when BA served the route from BFS, so I can only assume the traffic is there. Looking at other carriers, both BE and U2 fly to London up to 20 times daily between them. There is so much demand.




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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4349 times:

EWR-TLV is so profitable partially by the economy, as in my opinion CO has got LY beat as far as C Class quality,but by how many Business seats at high prices you can pack on those 2 daily 777s.
-Mr. X



What now?
User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4336 times:

SO is it locals filling the 777 seats on CO, or businessmen? What is their competition into TLV?

User currently offlineNZblue From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 638 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4218 times:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1759137/


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User currently offlineNWAFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1893 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4203 times:

INTERNATIONAL for NWA

ALL of Pacific..and thats a lot!

AMS

DOMESTIC:

FAR, MKE, IND, GRR, LAN



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25 Ramerinianair : NZBlue posted the link to most of the routings above . . . My question is, Why is LOS so popular for travel? You guys classify it as a cash cow? CO wa
26 STLGph : "with less than 2% of Americans being of Jewish backgroun, why is this so polular? Is there a large political base that visits there or business execu
27 Bobnwa : Aa777jr, AA operates more flights to LHR from JFK than ORD. It's easy to look up.
28 Fiedman : The most lucrative Canadian routes in my opinion are Between: YYZ and YUL YYZ and YOW YYC and YEG YYC and YVR YVR and YYZ If any one knows any others
29 PITrules : For Qantas it's SYD-LAX. Almost a third of the company's profits come from this one route!
30 Flybyguy : Any flights from US mainland to Latin America and the Caribbean. These flights are 1/4 the distance of any US - Europe route or US - Asia route for tw
31 ANstar : Flybyguy, Thats in Economy. The real money to be made is in the premium cabins and therefore (liek BA) if you go out full with the premium cabins you
32 Planespotting : *nearly* All the wright amendment routes for WN. DAL-HOU DAL-SAT DAL-AUS DAL-ABQ DAL-MSY DAL-OKC DAL-TUL DAL-HOU has about 20 flights a day with nearl
33 Mia : I would have to say that any flights out of TLH are extremely profitable for their airlines. I also think flights to HAV. I have never seen flights to
34 MIASkies : I hear the following from MIA: 1. MIA-LHR ( up to 2 daily 772ER on AA, up to 3 daily 744 on BA and one daily 744/A346 on VS) 2. MIA-EZE (2 daily 772 c
35 Vsa340600 : Hi All, I suppose all NWA's flights to Japan are profitable, I saw 15 NWA aircraft in Tokyo at once. Qantas SYD to LAX is profitable you can get 5-6 B
36 9A-CTK : For CX it's HKG-TPE and HKG-NRT
37 B741 : I remember decades ago that YYZ-YWG was about the fourth biggest domestic route in Canada.
38 Flybynight : SK's SEA-CPH is usually full.
39 Aa777jr : I saw 5 ns flights from ORD-LHR and 5 ns from JFK-LHR. does eitehr route offer more ns that I missed? I guess JFK-LHR for AA would be more profitable,
40 Bobnwa : Aa777jr, Today 29 Oct, AA has 5 ns ORD-LHR and 6 JFK-LHR. On Nov 1, AA has 4 ns ORD-LHR and 6 JFK-LHR Every day that I looked at, JFK had more.
41 Aa777jr : There are only 5 flights from JFK-LHR that I can see today on Oct 29th. AMERICAN AIRLINES 100 JFK New York 10/29/2004 06:20 PM LHR London 10/30/2004 0
42 Jetjeanes : Have you checked the fares out of Memphis to Stl.. you could fly to lax or Hnl cheaper than a 250 mile flight...its ridiculus. Mem being a nw hub, if
43 VonRichtofen : "The most lucrative Canadian routes in my opinion are Between: YYZ and YUL YYZ and YOW YYC and YEG YYC and YVR YVR and YYZ If any one knows any others
44 Bobnwa : Aa777jr, How about AA142, departs JFK 8:30am arrive LHR 8:15p every day. Thats six from JFK-LHR and six returning.
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