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WN Seeking To Expand At MDW And TZ 738's  
User currently offlineMikesairways From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 689 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3953 times:
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Just happed to see this article from Retuers.

A couple of key areas
1. Seeking to expand at MDW using TZ's gates
2. Looking to bid on TZ's 738 Aircraft
3. No RJ's
4. Already at capacity at PHL

http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuoteCompanyNewsArticle.jhtml?duid=mtfh41583_2004-10-28_16-43-03_n28472928_newsml


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User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3904 times:

Can Southwest bid for those jets ahead of ATA themselves? It would seem like Boeing would want to consider the future of the 757s as well. If the 737s go to Southwest or anyone else, the wet lease fees they could generate would go away and make it harder for ATA to pay for the 757s they want to keep.

Any thoughts?


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3830 times:

"Philadelphia is the first major city Southwest has added in years and Kelly said the carrier is "out of gate capacity" there."

This is nothing new, after the second PHL schedule started taking effect in July it was pretty much a given that they had maxed out their gates...

Greg



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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3819 times:

When is Southwest suppposed to move into the gates in concourse D that were taken away from US?


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User currently offlineTcttx From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3738 times:

Too many opportunities, what's WN to do?

MDW post-TZ
PHL post-US
DFW post-DL


User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7511 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 3699 times:

When is Southwest suppposed to move into the gates in concourse D that were taken away from US?

If I'm not mistaken, WN will be using those gates when they add flights and routes this Sunday.




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User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3393 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 3653 times:

If Southwest gets the 2 gates at D, they will have 6 total gates at PHL. At 41 daily flts that's not at capacity for PHL. With 6 gates, they can operate at least 55 flts.

User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7511 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3610 times:

If Southwest gets the 2 gates at D...

If...? There's no If here.

WN is indeed getting D2 & D4. As far as I know, they plan to start using them this Sunday when their number of flights and routes expand.

Three new non-stop destinations from PHL will be added: BDL, JAX, I'm not sure of the 3rd city.



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User currently offlineDbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 883 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3580 times:

My questions is if they could handle 45 more flights a day at MDW, why are they looking for more gates. The article stated they aren't currently at capacity at MDW, and WN has a fetish for keeping costs as low as possible. It doesn't seem like them to want to get more gates when they could better utilize the gates they currently have. Are they planning major expansion at MDW? Maybe that would be why they are looking for the added gates, or are they trying to keep competitors from getting in? The article didn't state how many gates they are looking at, but are these some of the gates AirTran is trying to get as well?

Also, if they get the 738s, wouldn't that also change things for them, because don't 738s require a 4th flight attendant. The reason they haven't gone bigger before is because they would have needed more cabin crew which they wouldn't need in their smaller 73Gs, 735s and 733s.


User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3527 times:

While the 738s would mean they would have to add an extra algorithim to their crew management software, the extra seats in the 738 would more than make up for what they would be paying the F/A. The have flights overbooked, or with people on standby all the time, and this would make it that much easier for WN to make money. Also, the 738 has complete commonality with the 73G, and full pilot commonality with the 733 and 735, so it is not an issue.


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User currently offlineD950 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 493 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3487 times:

As usual N1120a hits the nail square with the capacity issue. I have always thought the 738 or even better the 739 would be utopia for their high vlume routes. Do the ATA birds have any entertainment system?? This may throw WN into a tizzy!


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User currently offlineDbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 883 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 3447 times:

I agree that the 738 will probably be profitable for WN, the only problem is that with the need for another flight attendent, the flight crews on 738s won't be as flexible. Right now, any flight crew can transfer from one flight to any other Southwest flight without adding or removing any crew members. This would be a big change for Southwest.

If WN does get the TZ 738s, will they order more to get a bigger fleet of 738s...or even the 739?

[Edited 2004-10-28 22:40:47]

User currently offlineClipper002 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 679 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 3444 times:

Before we all go off conjecturing what might happen, don't forget any and all plans must be approved by the bankruptcy court.The creditors including the lessors of the a/c also have a large say in what happens to their assets. It's nice to dream of various scenarios, but no-one can accurately predict what will the final outcome will look like.



Ed



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User currently offlineStarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1126 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3323 times:

Would WN pick up any of TZ personnel or would they staff everything themselves? Their corporate culture suggests that they would staff in-house but would new-hire TZ personnel to fill their needs with the new A/c.

I imagine WN would get pretty favorable terms to absorb all these birds.



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3308 times:

>>>Right now, any flight crew can transfer from one flight to any other Southwest flight without adding or removing any crew members.

Not quite true. Not -every- crew can jump into a 737-200, since their numbers have been dwindling and both the aircraft/crews concentrated into a smaller (read: not systemwide) area. In rough numbers, 20% of the crews can fly the -200, and the other 80% are no longer current to.

As I've said before, should SWA actually acquire -800s, we have the computer horsepower and personnel skill to track a 4th F/A...


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