Geizistgeil From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 148 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 9373 times:
News from rati.com (sorry, log-in needed):
Emirates president Jim Clarke outlines Emirates seat configuration details of their A380 entering service in 2006:
Jim Clarke: "If it [the A380] does what Airbus says it will do, and we have no doubt that it will be any different, against the 747-400 it will achieve seat/mile cost advantages of 24-25% and against the 777-300, the aircraft that we operate now, it effectively gives us a 18% seat/mile cost advantage. So what did we do? We thought that with these seat/mile costs we could actually start to take out seats to bring us a very good cost delta and create some very good passenger features."
In a two-class arrangement seat config will be "in the region of 650". Lower density will be introduced for the long-range flights such as DXB-SYD, DXB-JFK, in the region of 480-490 seats.
"If the Wright brothers were alive today. Wilbur would have to fire Orville to reduce costs" (H. Kelleher)
Geoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9058 times:
Yawn. Here we go again. Let me point out that the BA seating width is one quarter of an inch wider than EK's 777. EK's 330 seat is half an inch wider than BA's. EK's 777 seat is still wider than charter airlines and even a couple of mainstream carriers.
And from 28 flying hours of experience as a broad shouldered bloke, it's fine.
Any more information than just the number of seats?
Geoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8713 times:
EK international and (most of) AA international have the same 34" of legroom.
Or have AA finally finished fitting out their entire fleet? I remember them advertising "more room" (or whatever their slogan was) long before most of the planes had it. To be fair, so did BA with their club class flat beds.
Uadc8contrail From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1782 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8498 times:
"In comparison, picture a UA 777 with surly matrons, minimal legroom, lousy food and $ 5 for a shot of bad wine"
not going to dispute surly matrons, but on any intercontinental flight the chances of getting a hot 22 year old bombshell on any us airline is pretty low.have you flown on the ua777??i guess you have not as i will take e+ any day vs the aa,dl product. also what us airline doesnt serve lousy wine????and if your flying intl you get that lousy shot of wine for free on ua.
Cloud4000 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 639 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8499 times:
No doubt some of the A380s will put on flights to Bangladesh, India and Pakistan because of high-demand. And if Bangladesh still continues to be obstinate about giving more frequencies to EK, expect them to put it on the route quicker.
Geoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 7 Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7880 times:
Lol @ COFan! I wondered why the logo "AA more room" seems to be turning into just "AA"!
That does raise an interesting point though (let's ignore reality here and go semi-fictional). If AA had been advertising "more room", at what point does "less room" become legally viable, since advertising laws in this country are pretty strict. In other words, if they had an ad on TV, but then dropped the seats 3 months later, does that constitute false advertising - probably not? Say I bought a ticket after seeing the ad and flew the very next day, and they'd changed the seats overnight - false advertising - most likely? Where do you draw the line between a day and 3 months?
EK345 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 163 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4897 times:
You will be surprised to know that EK actually operates 3 class aircraft on its Indian routes (eg Delhi), while only a 2 class (F/Y) to Jeddah (Saudi Arabia). The sectors I have flown on EK between these two countries the flights have been booked solid in ALL classes.
Carpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2876 posts, RR: 4 Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4798 times:
777 10-abreast is very uncomfortable width wise unless one is extremely thin.
I am 5' 9" & 150lb which makes me relatively thin, and I had fight for elbow room and felt extremely scrunched. Of course seat pitch is up to individual carrier. Anything more than a couple of hours in a 10-abreast 777, I want to stay away from such as certain EK 777 & TG 772s.
I figured most carriers will opt for less than manufacturer quoted 3-class seating. It makes a big difference, particularly in a flying metal tube, not being in close proximity to another human. First & business seats will certainly have much more individual space than ever before.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3369 times:
Gigneil...i've flown the DXB-KHI sector a bunch of times, just a couple of months ago to be exact....they have a three class configuration on that one also.....even though the DXB-KHI route is packed...I doubt they will use such a large aircraft from the Emirates to Pakistan...as DXB-KHI, DXB-LHR, and
DXB-ISB are their largest United Arab Emirates to Pakistan routes..the distances are not too great...their 330's are doing fine...