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User currently offlineUA747SP From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 31 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2935 times:

Hey! I often fly B6's route from JFK to ONT and the flight is nearly _always_ full. I can't think of a time I've ridden it with a less than 80% load factor. With such a high demand and the growing population of the Inland Empire, I would've expected a higher frequency of service. The route is the only non-stop link between New York and the Inland Empire. B6, however, only offers once-daily service on this route. I was wondering what the prospects of B6 increasing frequency on this route were. Thanks.

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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2906 times:

That would be up the marketing and research office at B6 to decide to increase the service. All you can do is wait and hope to see what they do.


Sean from MCO and CVG



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineFA4B6 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2844 times:

[this has been discussed] but jetblue is adding a second flight in the spring .... its loaded into jetblue.com for purchase.

Also expect to see additional JFK-ONT, SEA, SJC, and SMF in the near future

looks like the extra ONT and MSY are loaded onto jetblue.com:

JFK-ONT / Flight 177 / 0700-0940
ONT-JFK / Flight 178 / 1040-1850

JFK-MSY / Flight 127 / 2110-2315
MSY-JFK / Flight 126 / 0645-1035


User currently offlineFA4B6 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2830 times:

oh .. and it's about time .. ONT is ALWAYS full!!

User currently offlineUA747SP From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2806 times:

Thanks so much, all!!

User currently offlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 819 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

not only is ONT and MSY getting an addt'l flight but also BOS-LGB/OAK will go from 2x daily to 3x daily. now the question will be...what about the extra LGB slots w/ the LGB-LAS route (as of right now) will be no longer next year.

what would also be cool...granted LAS is a low-yield market, but with our cost structure i'm sure we can do well flying LAS to say...BOS, IAD, or even a florida destination.

~B6FA4ever


User currently offlineLeneld From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2501 times:

Once agian nothing for PDX!

User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2409 times:

More so than ever we need a MCO-LGB flight.


Sean from MCO and CVG



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2451 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2356 times:

How is the Phoenix flight doing so far?


You can't fix stupid.... - Ron White
User currently offlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 819 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2328 times:

Cactus739,

i've been watching our JFK-PHX loads and they've been running with no less than 115 pax recently. and also full towards the weekends. the reutrn flight has been doing good as well.

~B6FA4ever


User currently offlineBlueF9A320 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2302 times:

Does anyone think that B6 will bring any additional flights to DEN? Or is B6 generally trying to stay off of Frontier's turf? Any comments are appreciated.

v/r

BlueF9A320



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User currently offlineFA4B6 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2271 times:

BlueF9A320:

I think that what we have now is enough (2x JFK-DEN, 1x BOS-DEN). If BOS-DEN consistently started selling out, you'll see a daytime turn. Originally, DEN (like SEA) was created to send the planes out instead of RON'ing, its just that the service became so popular.

They were looking at, rumour has it, at LGB-DEN but with so much competition from UAL/Ted and F9, I dont think itll pan out.



User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3019 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

If BOS-DEN consistently started selling out, you'll see a daytime turn.

That's a HUGE "if" there as I heard that flight usually only fills up on Sundays and Mondays (usually full of DEN passengers as JetBlue is not well known in BOS...yet). But I don't understand why it doesn't fill up...UA does not match JetBlue in $ for $ pricing, and you should see how high UA's walk-up prices are when it's easy to find a B6 walk-up price of $89!

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineAirways6max From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2085 times:

Given that B6's earnings were below expectations last quarter, I would imagine that they will be very cautious about adding flights.

User currently offlineAkjetblue From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 790 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1743 times:

Long ago, when I got hired there was rumor of a HUB being built at DEN.

I mentioned it to a coworker who pointed out that if this was so, it would have been later dropped when UA filled BC - Worried with a new airport if UA went under the rent would go up.

I don't think it would have been a smart idea to jump into another cities LCC hub who happens to be a decent size HUB for UA too.

It would be nice to see another focus city though, we're hearing rumors of another west coast HUB. I'm wishing for SEA now that they've finished construction of the new terminal wing. Maybe we can finally get that flight to ANC we've all be dreaming of... Heck a SEA hub would give B6 the four corners! SEA, LGB, JFK and FLL! Whoo hooo!

If wishes were horses, we'd all be ride'n though right?

-Philzy



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6791 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1728 times:

What about Reno or Spokane as a hub?


Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1707 times:

even if there was no hub at SEA, who says that B6 couldn't run JFK-SEA-ANC-SEA-JFK?

User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6791 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1689 times:

even if there was no hub at SEA, who says that B6 couldn't run JFK-SEA-ANC-SEA-JFK?

Does jetBlue DO non-hub/focus city spokes? That route would count as one. I can't think of any.. most of their flights are through JFK, BOS, FLL, LGB, OAK.. all either hubs or focus cities.. therefore, I couldn't see them using SEA for ANC.. perhaps OAK-ANC would work, however.



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3129 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1640 times:

i wouldn't agree with that... i would call JFK a hub, LGB a hub according to them... and everything else a spoke or point-to-point, i wouldnt call them focus cities (places like OAK, FLL)... so as far as i see it they have plently of point-to-point flights such as IAD-FLL, IAD-OAK, BOS-DEN etc...

TWA902



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User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1488 times:

"Given that B6's earnings were below expectations last quarter, I would imagine that they will be very cautious about adding flights. "

The new planes are arriving on an ongoing basis, they will have to add flights. Also, with each additional market they open, it increases the loads on the rest of the network due to connecting traffic. The bottom line is that they are still at a point where making additions increases their "economy of scale" and is therefore a good thing.



Dave Mark - Intrinsic Algorithm - Reducing the world to mathematical equations!
User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2451 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1426 times:

I don't see them doing JFK-SEA-ANC either. Alaska has oodles of flights on that route and its customers are for the most part VERY loyal.

OAK-ANC would be a better idea, I have to agree....



You can't fix stupid.... - Ron White
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