UA747SP From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 31 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3025 times:
Hey! I often fly B6's route from JFK to ONT and the flight is nearly _always_ full. I can't think of a time I've ridden it with a less than 80% load factor. With such a high demand and the growing population of the Inland Empire, I would've expected a higher frequency of service. The route is the only non-stop link between New York and the Inland Empire. B6, however, only offers once-daily service on this route. I was wondering what the prospects of B6 increasing frequency on this route were. Thanks.
B6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 820 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2654 times:
not only is ONT and MSY getting an addt'l flight but also BOS-LGB/OAK will go from 2x daily to 3x daily. now the question will be...what about the extra LGB slots w/ the LGB-LAS route (as of right now) will be no longer next year.
what would also be cool...granted LAS is a low-yield market, but with our cost structure i'm sure we can do well flying LAS to say...BOS, IAD, or even a florida destination.
FA4B6 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2361 times:
I think that what we have now is enough (2x JFK-DEN, 1x BOS-DEN). If BOS-DEN consistently started selling out, you'll see a daytime turn. Originally, DEN (like SEA) was created to send the planes out instead of RON'ing, its just that the service became so popular.
They were looking at, rumour has it, at LGB-DEN but with so much competition from UAL/Ted and F9, I dont think itll pan out.
JetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3087 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2212 times:
If BOS-DEN consistently started selling out, you'll see a daytime turn.
That's a HUGE "if" there as I heard that flight usually only fills up on Sundays and Mondays (usually full of DEN passengers as JetBlue is not well known in BOS...yet). But I don't understand why it doesn't fill up...UA does not match JetBlue in $ for $ pricing, and you should see how high UA's walk-up prices are when it's easy to find a B6 walk-up price of $89!
Akjetblue From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 790 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1833 times:
Long ago, when I got hired there was rumor of a HUB being built at DEN.
I mentioned it to a coworker who pointed out that if this was so, it would have been later dropped when UA filled BC - Worried with a new airport if UA went under the rent would go up.
I don't think it would have been a smart idea to jump into another cities LCC hub who happens to be a decent size HUB for UA too.
It would be nice to see another focus city though, we're hearing rumors of another west coast HUB. I'm wishing for SEA now that they've finished construction of the new terminal wing. Maybe we can finally get that flight to ANC we've all be dreaming of... Heck a SEA hub would give B6 the four corners! SEA, LGB, JFK and FLL! Whoo hooo!
If wishes were horses, we'd all be ride'n though right?
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6815 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1779 times:
even if there was no hub at SEA, who says that B6 couldn't run JFK-SEA-ANC-SEA-JFK?
Does jetBlue DO non-hub/focus city spokes? That route would count as one. I can't think of any.. most of their flights are through JFK, BOS, FLL, LGB, OAK.. all either hubs or focus cities.. therefore, I couldn't see them using SEA for ANC.. perhaps OAK-ANC would work, however.
TWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3150 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1730 times:
i wouldn't agree with that... i would call JFK a hub, LGB a hub according to them... and everything else a spoke or point-to-point, i wouldnt call them focus cities (places like OAK, FLL)... so as far as i see it they have plently of point-to-point flights such as IAD-FLL, IAD-OAK, BOS-DEN etc...
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InnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1578 times:
"Given that B6's earnings were below expectations last quarter, I would imagine that they will be very cautious about adding flights. "
The new planes are arriving on an ongoing basis, they will have to add flights. Also, with each additional market they open, it increases the loads on the rest of the network due to connecting traffic. The bottom line is that they are still at a point where making additions increases their "economy of scale" and is therefore a good thing.
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