Dayflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3 Posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 15097 times:
I saw a 747 with only 3 engines (2 on one wing, 1 on the other) take off from DTW last week. The name of the airline started with "E". Is this the plane that lost an engine over lake Michigan last week? Where would it be going? How can this aircraft be allowed to fly with 3 engines? I would think it would be safer to ferry in an engine than to fly the airplane?
Jetjeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1430 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 14924 times:
I think it was one of kallettas junk, but I would imagine it was permited to ferry back to yip which is close by. That plane is going to require more than just an engine, There is major damage to the wing,and the other engine looked to me out of whack...
JBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4488 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 14857 times:
Lots of multiengine airplanes can be flown on ferry flights with one (in some cases more) engines inoperative. You will not see this done on revenue flights, obviously. The DC-10 and MD-11 can be two-engine ferried, for example, as well. 747's, DC-8's, 707's, not sure about 727's...you get the drift.
Obviously it's subject to a different set of checks, balances, and regulations, but if all the t's are crossed and i's are dotted then it's perfectly legal.
Clipper002 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 679 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 14692 times:
The FAA will permit 2 or 3 engine ferries, but there are a lot more checks that have to be accomplished for this to happen. The first is that all of the remaining engines must pass a boroscope. Only certain pilots are permitted to fly a/c with less than all engines operating. As far as I'm concerned, you should always try to fly the engine to the plane, not the plane to the engine. We've lost a whole lot of big bucks when 275 sat on its' tail last month up in ANC. As for seeing 3 engines on one wing, the third engine is called a "fifth pod". Both the 707 and 747 have been approved to operate this way. It's a good way to transport your engines around but also quite expensive do to the additional drag.
There was also a remark that one of the engines "looked out of whack" whatever that is. Believe me, those 3 remaining engines all have to be operating in perfect synch before that plane is released to fly.
Vikingair From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 13090 times:
Also there were some DC-8's that had the ability to pod an engine between the #2 engine and the fuselage...When the Emery DC-8 landed in SWF years ago and clipped the tail off a ABX DC-9 on the runway that DC-8 flew out of SWF on 3 engines. That is to say #1 engine was completely removed for the special ferry flight for maintenance.
Ramerinianair From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 9439 times:
If you read the caption to the first pic posted . . . you'll find out that this isn't that odd of an operation for katlitta! They had to 3 engine ferry a 741 in that pic too.
I think they need to get serious with their mx!!!!