Aa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2783 times:
MSN Type Active from To Registration Remark
19922 (96) 747-206B 01/09/1989 25/10/1989 PH-BUA To America West Airlines
20398 (152) 747-206B 16/07/1990 02/05/1992 N534AW To Garuda
20398 (152) 747-206B 13/07/1992 31/03/1994 N534AW To TWA
Any information on these three birds? What routes did they operate? How long were they with America West?
Jfrworld From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 365 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2696 times:
Yep, AWA acquired a total of 4, 747-200's in 1989 when they began nonstop service between PHX/LAS and HNL. I believe they chose the 747 because this was before ETOPS was granted between the mainland and Hawaii and you couldn't fly a twin engine jet that far over water. Also, HP had their sights set on the pacific rim as well. In early 1991 during the gulf war, they started one stop service from PHX/LAS to Nagoya, Japan via HNL. The service to Japan didn't even last a year and they ended up selling the route.
The 747's to Japan and HNL represented the excesses of the Ed Beuvais run America West. Bancrupcy followed and the 747's were gone by 1992.
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9355 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2417 times:
I just have to wonder what would have happened if they had purchased 762ERs instead of the 742s. The 762ER was available at the time and had the range and ETOPS certification to run to HNL and Nagoya. It had commonality with the 757s too. If they had gone this way, would it have been such a failure? I think they wouldn't have been hurt as much, especially because I've heard that the load factors on the 742s were ridiculously low. If they went for 76s would they be in Europe now? We will never know, but it is fun to speculate.
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Flyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2137 times:
up in kingman, at the america west express ticket counter, the comment cards they still have there are from those old days. it still has a picture of a hp 747 on it in the old colors. when i was driving through on the way to laughlin we stopped at the airport to take pictures of all the stored a/c, and we grabbed a couple, that was the end of aug.