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Aeropostal To Expand In Miami  
User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3680 times:

I wonder if this all Business Class MD-80 product will be similar to what ACES used to operate? And, of course, who will operate them to the US on his behalf, because he cannot operate Venezuelan-registered aircraft to the US.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/10081850.htm?1c

Aeropostal, a Venezuelan airline owned by a Cuban-born Miamian, plans to expand its service from South Florida, launching its first all-cargo flights and adding passenger routes through affiliated carriers.

Early next year, the airline will add two daily flights to Caracas. At that point, all the Miami-Venezuela flights will operate with MD-82s with all business-class seats but economy fares, said Ramiz, who splits his time between his business in Caracas and his family in Coral Gables.


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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3666 times:

How many a/cs are destinated to the CCS/MIA route?

Are they also leased from Falcon Air?

Definitely this is great news!


User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3665 times:

That's what I don't understand is who will operate the MD-82s to Miami for them. Falcon doesn't have any and, iirc, does not have them on their certificate. Unless by registering the Costa Rican airline, they transfer the YV registered MD-80s and operate them with Costa Rican registrations to the US.

User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2567 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3665 times:

Excellent news!!! so now we'll have 4 daily CCS-MIA flights on MD80s with business class seats, this is great!!!  Smile Smile Smile

They also talk about Aeropostal: Alas de Centroamérica, which is based in SJO. Aeropostal will fly SJO-FLL-SJO with MD80s also.

Thanks for sharing LatinAviation, I have a big smile on my face now  Smile


User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3657 times:

Actually, Mark beat me to it, here's his original post:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1805803/

I was looking for it before I posted, he rarely misses these things.


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3646 times:

Luisde8cd

Hi my friend,

Any news about Alas de Centroamérica? When do they start business?

Do you know their web page address?

Sorry. Too many questions.

Thanks,


User currently offlineB757200 From Spain, joined Sep 2004, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3636 times:

@TACAA320

Hi, I found some info about Alas de Centroamerica. Hope it helps.

http://www.ca-plus.net/news/101104/english/honduras/default.asp

"Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela currently flies a few relatively new Airbuses, along with Boeing 727s y DC9s that date from the 1980s."

Guess the writer got some outdated information about Aeropostal's fleet  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.



User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3620 times:

Thanks for the information B757200

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User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3619 times:

By the way, Ramiz hints at this in his interview, but the start of Aeropostal was anything but smooth. He bought those planes and their certificate out of Venezuelan bankruptcy proceedings with the help of US and Israeli investors who thought he was going to re-sell that planes. Ramiz, up until this point, was an airplane trader, not airline manager.

This caused an enormous amount of legal activity... his partners sued him, vice versa. Essentially, Ramiz couldn't enter Venezuela without threat of being jailed for a little over a year. He ran the airline from Miami via one of his advisors in CCS, Saul Montejo.

It all got sorted out in the end, right when they started service to the US. All of this was filed publicly in the US docket system because the US entity that backed Ramiz, Aeron Holdings, and the Israeli's, who incorporated in Jersey, tried to block him and filed everything in a public docket to air some dirty luandry on the deal. Long, to be certain, but excellent reading.


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3574 times:

Is Aeropostal flying Airbuses?


I think not, but please correct me if I'm wrong.


Thanks,


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3556 times:

Hi all,

regarding Alas de Centroamerica, the start is now expected for March 05.
TACAA320, no, there are no Airbusses in the fleet right now.
The expansion of AeroHonduras will start in December, when the second 737 is put into service for Managua-Miami and the DC9 transfered from CCS to TGU to operate SAL and SAN.
Apart of that the first Dornier 328 for the regional operations are expected to arrive in CCS these days to be put in service beginning of December.


User currently offlineMiamix707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3489 times:

The Aeropostal Cargo 727 has been sitting outside a maintenance hangar at Miami for at least a month, after being painted. Not sure what the delay is. It has a U.S. registration.

[Edited 2004-11-03 23:51:40]

User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2567 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3460 times:

Apart of that the first Dornier 328 for the regional operations are expected to arrive in CCS these days to be put in service beginning of December.

What routes will that a/c be used on? is it the turboprop or the jet model?


User currently offlineCayman From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3452 times:

That seems like it will saturate the capacity of MIA CCS route--what with Santa Barb, AA, LAN--are there others too?

I mean there are limits on the route--

Good for Aeropostal though.

I am surprised somebody doesnt start a MIA PMV service--I know Aeropostal had it years ago--I am sure they could fill a daily flight--


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32571 posts, RR: 72
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3435 times:

That seems like it will saturate the capacity of MIA CCS route--what with Santa Barb, AA, LAN--are there others too?


This is not saturating capacity. Aeropostal is reducing capacity, by going from Y-configured 727s to C-configured MD80s. They will still offer only two daily MIA-CCS flights. They will offer a total of four daily flights to MIA when you add in the daily MIA-MAR and MIA-VLN flights.



a.
User currently offlineCRAviation From Costa Rica, joined Oct 2004, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3399 times:

Alas de Centroamerica is already hiring (and has hired pilots) in Costa Rica. Training will start soon for another group of pilots.
It's great to see this happening around Central America and let's see how the entry of this new airline will affect the market prices.

Saludos

Andre



-CostaRicaAviation-FotosAereasCR.com-
User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3376 times:

What routes will that a/c be used on? is it the turboprop or the jet model?
We had that on a previous post. There will be 12 turboprops service amongst others:
San Tome
Merida
Ciudad Bolivar
Cumana
San Fernando
Puerto Ayacucho
Grenada
Barbados
and some interciudades and internationals from MAR.
Hopefully they also consider someting like MAR-BOG !


User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1342 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3360 times:

Great! good news to see Aeropostal expanding...I guess Santa Barbara was starting to catch up on them!

So let's see ... now we have AA, LAN, Aeropostal and Santa Barbara with scheduled service to CCS from MIA...That is alot of flights.



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User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3339 times:

I guess Santa Barbara was starting to catch up on them!
I would not say that. Santa Barbara is operating about 2 Cessna Caravan, 3 or 4 ATR42, one 727, one or two DC10 and one 757.
Aeropostal has 18 DC9, 4 MD83 and 2 727. That´s a difference. Wtih 12 Dornier and some more surprises to come, the gap will even grow.


User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1342 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3332 times:

Umm...Im speaking about CCS-MIA service Chiguire with regards to my comment. I would much rather fly a 752 of SB than a 722 of Aeropostal.
Not talking about overall Fleet comparison...



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User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3322 times:

SORRY MIASkies.
Here you are definitely right ! I would also prefer a 757 ! And I am not sure if the decision to use a C-config is a good one. Aeropostal is not known as good C-airline up to now. It looks more like a desperate step to me.


User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1342 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3312 times:

Definetly...Sounds like they are trying to really make a desperate attempt to get back some of their passengers from SB!

Should be interesting to see how this all plays out...

Saludos !

Ciao.



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User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2567 posts, RR: 31
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3282 times:

I'm flying to BOS on Feb. I was going to fly CCS-MIA on SB and then FLL-BOS on US. Now i'll fly CCS-MIA on VH. I've heard that SB's coach class gets really crowed and there's little legroom, so if VH offers my a business class product paying coach fare, I will definetely fly them.

User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3262 times:

Hola Luisde8cd
I am afraid you might be too fast. I doubt that VH will already offer that product in February. Everything they do needs a lot of time, Just remember the regional plans. It´s now about two years (!!) ago that Ramiz said he will serve regional routes with Saab aircraft. If we are lucky this happens now in winter season with Dornier328. You know, seeing is believing ! They are talking to go to Europe since... it´s soooo long ago, I even don´t remember.
But one thing is for sure...you will probably have a lot of space when flying VH to MIA, no matter if in Y or C ! Just let me know the date, I will get you a good seat...  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3229 times:

I just noticed that Aeropostal has relaunched their .com -site
http://www.aeropostal.com the german site remains the old one
http://www.aeropostal.de.
Aserca offers online booking now:
http://www.asercaairlines.com.


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