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What Makes The B757 So Loved?  
User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 44
Posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8209 times:

So, sadly the final B757 has rolled off the line. What has occurred to me from the numerous threads recently is that the B757 seems to be held in such high regard by almost everyone. I'm sure its not just all sentiment.

Apart from the odd comment regarding it's transatlantic use, I can't ever remember seeing a negative comment by anyone here, and we are a notoriously critical bunch!  Smile So what makes the B757 so popular with everyone when almost every other aircraft type has it's fair share of lovers and loathers?

Take-off performance?
Slender appearance?
Economics?
Versatility?

And yes, I adore the B757 too.


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User currently offlineJetBlast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1231 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8148 times:

The beautiful lines, it's such a sleek airplane. It will be sorely missed...  Crying

JetBlast @ BWI



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User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8141 times:

Takeoff Performance is one of the reasons for me. An A319/320/321 can't even compare to it, and the sound is just amazing.

Looks also play a major part in my love of the 757, its just right, especially the nose.


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User currently offlineBlackhawk144 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8123 times:

It's just such a beautiful airplane. I love it.

Anthony


User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8098 times:

Performance, Performance, Performance. It was a truly worthy replacement for the 727


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8083 times:

Beauty and power... great combo.

And then there's its incredible versatility: 350nm one segment.... 3,500 the next


User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26354 posts, RR: 76
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8070 times:

The 757 is also one of the safest planes ever built. The only crashes have been due to faulty maintainance or disorientated pilots. The thing is a rocket ship that can use shorter runways than smaller planes, while flying farther and having lower seat-mile costs. It looks like a dart and is one of the most comfortable A/C I have ever been on (I know it should be exactly the same as any Boeing narrow body, but it isn't). Anyone else ever notice how loud their flaps are when adjusted?


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User currently offlinePetazulu From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8059 times:

How about safety. I think is has to be hands down the safest airliner ever.
I love the 757. I am always confident that it will get me where I have to go.


User currently offlineGaut From Belgium, joined Dec 2001, 344 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8027 times:

I am a 757's fan. For me, she is one of the most elegant aircraft ever built.

Gaut



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User currently offlineNorthwestEWR From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 419 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7997 times:

I like the looks and the cabin is roomy
Takeoff power is grand !

All around very nice aircraft



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User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7991 times:

Elegant, Safe, Economic, Unrivalled Performance in its class, Beautiful, Imponent.

I LOVE IT!
It's a pity Boeing decided to close the line, but it's good to know they'll be around much time more.



I gladly accept donations to pay for flight hours! This thing draws man...
User currently offlineBaw716 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2027 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7952 times:

From an airline perspective, the 757 has terrific economics and flexibility. If you fly 300 miles or 3000 miles (which can be done with the aircraft), the unit costs do not change radically, which is unusual on an aircraft.

Probably more than that, it can be used in places in which other aircraft, notably the 737 can't be used. A 757 with MTOW can get airborne in less than 5000ft, making it possible to fly into certain airports that it would be impossible for the 737 can support (certain South American airports come into mind). Additionally, the capacity of the 757 in such a STOL situation provides an airline the capability of carrying nearly 200 passengers where the 737 can at best do 150 before weight penalties kick in.

It is a shame that the 753 did not catch on more than it did. It was a unique aircraft and one that could serve certain markets well. Its problem was its size and weight; using the same engines with another 24-25 of fuselage makes the aircraft unable to do the short runway operations like the 752 and when you get to over 200 passengers (which the 753 can do easily), passengers prefer the 767 with the twin aisles that has about the same capacity of passengers (+up to 30 seats).

Finally, the 737NG was the nail in the coffin for the 757. With greater range and less fuel required to operate than the 757, the 738/739s are within 10 seats of the 757 in capacity. An airline that has a fleet of 737NGs will want to stay with the same type of aircraft for longer missions, a la transcon. With the 737-700 being able to do transatlantic in an all Business operation, the 737 mission profile becomes a very flexible one, making the 757 almost redundant. I think this over anything was the demise of the 757.

We will all miss the 757....it is truly a rocket at low weights over short distances; I remember flying SFO-LAX with about 80 on board, we went from sea level to FL410 in under 10 minutes. Out over the ocean, he got the clearance, poured on the coals and flew at a high pitch angle (while still accelerating) and before we were turning SE toward LAX, we were already cruising at FL410. There is no other aircraft flying today that can match that performance.

She'll be around for awhile more....another 10 years or so before the airframes start to degrade on the older birds, so we can be flying her for some time to come. Next out of the red barn, the Dreamliner.



David L. Lamb, fmr Area Mgr Alitalia SFO 1998-2002, fmr Regional Analyst SFO-UAL 1992-1998
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20342 posts, RR: 62
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7947 times:

The 757 became my favorite plane to fly on my first flight with it on Eastern in the late 1980s. Take-off was absolutely astonishing, combined with what seemed more long-haul type seating vs. what I can only describe as 737-type seating. The Eastern 757s also had mid-cabin lavatories, which they used as the demarcation line between smoking and non-smoking, which worked better than the setup on any other aircraft flying similar routes. It also reminded me of the days of flying 707s on non-stop transcontinental flights with Eastern's night owl service from LAX to BOS and PHL and v.v.

One question in my mind I've never reconciled is that while I can't find any records online of the old Eastern 757s going to Northwest, I've flown a number of 757s on NW with the mid-cabin lavs and the same brown striped fabric on the seats Eastern had, the last just this past December from LGA-MSP. The connecting flight, also on a 757, had the newer interior without mid-cabin lavs and a different seat.

Are any of Eastern's 757s flying for Northwest?

Cheers, AeroWesty



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User currently offlineJopavon From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 304 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7924 times:

I love landing on the 57...you can hardly feel when it touches the ground, it's a very quiet and smooth experience. The good thing there are still many around and will be for some years...


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User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7912 times:

What makes it so loved? Because it's a champion. And everyone loves a champion. There is nothing that compares to it, or IMO, ever will. Nothing matches it's performance in it's class? Why? Because there is nothing in it's class. I've said it before and I'll say it again. My brain understands why Boeing shut down the 757 line, but my heart won't. Why would you stop producing a product that has no equal? Why not improve a product when you have the capability to do so?

I am a big Boeing fan. But mention the 757 and then I scour at Boeing. Other than the -300, there was never a major upgrade of the 757. If they had, I'd bet the 757 line would still be producing aircraft.

The seven-five rapidly became my favorite twin engined aircraft over the past few years. It figures, I probably jinxed it.  Sad

Long live the 757!!


User currently offlineFlyabunch From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 517 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7912 times:

A couple of years ago I was flying from Tampa to Houston on Continental on a 757 and the guy next to me was the 757 instructor pilot for another airline commuting to his job. I told him of my love for the 757 and he got this little smile on his face and said: "you know what the pilots call it? They call it the HOT ROD of the skies!"

I thought that was pretty appropriate.

Mike


User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3299 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7885 times:

Even Presidential candidates use the 757!


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Her looks, performance, sound, grace, just everything about her make her as poupular as she is.

Long live the 757! Big grin


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7879 times:

Try to put an A321 into EGE and tell me what happens


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User currently offlineRoblondon70 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7729 times:

Haw you been accross the Atlantic on one of these crates?

User currently offline320tech From Turks and Caicos Islands, joined May 2004, 491 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7706 times:

Oops, where'd that sour note come from?

Even though I am an Airbus lover (not literally), I particularly like the 757. I think the proportions are right (I also like the A321, which has a similar look, at least to me). Also, I like the nose, no idea why.

I like that it is considered a "heavy", as well. An airplane that carries more than her own weight, in a way.

I've never had a chance to fly on one, or work on one, but I'd like to.



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User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4105 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7700 times:

OB1504:

North American Airlines is an airline, not a canidate's plane.  Big grin

The 757 is the best aircraft ever made. Why? It speaks for itself.


User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3238 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7701 times:

For me it's the nose...


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I don't know what it is about it. It just looks gorgeous!  Love

It's also slender and elegant, it takes off like a rocket,


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and I also love the pencil-like look of the -300.


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(I still wish one day I will travel on a -300; I've only been on -200s so far).

But, if I had to choose one thing, it'd be the nose. Definitely!  Big thumbs up

Tony



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User currently offlineRoblondon70 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7675 times:

I tell you, it ain't so pretty inside LGW-CLE or BHX-EWR.

User currently offlineNorjet From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7642 times:

NW never took 757s from EA due to their RR powerplants. All NW 75s are P&W.

Am I correct in believing that all NW-operated 757s were delivered directly to Northwest? (leaving aside the handful from the Republic merger which were promptly unloaded, of course...)

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User currently offlineRedtailmsp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 206 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7591 times:

Yes Norjet, they were all delivered direct to NWA. The former Republic ones were in the fleet after the merger only briefly and ended up with America West - they were Rolls Royce powered versus Pratt & Whitney for the NWA ordered aircraft.

The 757 is certainly a very versatile aircraft as has been said numerous times on this posting. It can be used for just about any stage length and is great to dispatch because it is very rare that you can ever reach any performance limits. Plus the great power-to-weight ratio which allows you to get out of an airport such as MDW very comfortably with a full payload, and also allows you to climb straight to FL370 without a step-climb most of the time - gives you great versatility and economics. It is well loved by pilots for its capabilities and handling characteristics. It is well loved by marketing folks who can use it in many, many situations. It is however not so well loved by passengers - the cabin width is noticeably less than the A320, and sitting in the middle seat on a long flight is very uncomfortable. Also, the long tube takes forever to disembark from...even worse with the -300. Nevertheless, it is one hell of an aircraft.


25 AeroWesty : NW never took 757s from EA due to their RR powerplants. All NW 75s are P&W. Ahhh, yes, the engine issue, thanks for jolting my brain. I'll just keep t
26 PlaneMad : I adore 757's but when I flew CO 66 CLE-LGW it was not pleasant. Sam D.
27 Star_world : Here we go again about the "narrowbodies aren't comfortable on transatlantic flights". I used to live in Dublin and flew DUB-EWR on a very regular bas
28 Post contains images GKirk : Flown on 752 (XLA) and 753 (TCX). It's performance is second to none, quiet, very comfortable. Altogether, definitly the best of the narrowbodies
29 Boeing nut : Here we go again about the "narrowbodies aren't comfortable on transatlantic flights". How is it any difference? Exactly. I'd bet big money that if yo
30 Regional757 : Its just such a beatiful aircraft. It has the best lines on an aircraft that I have seen. I've never seen a paint-sceme on the jet that I didnt like b
31 SNATH : Star and Boeing Nut, I haven't been on a 757 on a transatlantic flight (and I do hope to do so one day!). But, the main problem with it I can see is t
32 Post contains images Pilot kaz : Reasons why I love this aircraft: - The shape and look - Take off performance - Looks good in any colors - First Aicraft I flew on - And again the sle
33 HlywdCatft : I like that unique look it has when you look at it head on during take off
34 NYCAAer : Well, I have to admit as a flight attendant, I don't like the 757. Although it is a very sturdy (touch the fuselage of a 757 when you're boarding one
35 KateAA : I have been working on the Boeing 757 since I started working and I love her. She just climbs straight (atc permitting) to her CRZ ALT, and take off,
36 September11 : I think that 757s are very versatile. They perform well up in the air and rotates well on the ground. Seating capacity not too bad. I think they can h
37 Rikkus67 : ...with the end of the 757 line...why not keep one small piece of her? That elegant nose of hers SHOULD graft right onto a standard 737NG airframe (th
38 N801dm : The 757 is a maintenance dream. It is a workhorse and has a very high reliability rate. The combination of power, efficiency and ability to do up to a
39 Post contains images Thrust : There is no other airplane like the Boeing 757. It is essentially a giant twin-engined narrowbody, it's takeoff performance is unmatched in my opinion
40 SLUAviator : The 757 is a great plane. Nothing can take that away from it. Ever. It has been one of my favorites and the day the last one flies will be a sad day f
41 KDTWFlyer : The 757 is such a clean design. I think the cockpit is lower so the crew steps down into the cockpit, seems sporty. And yes, the legendary takeoff run
42 Ckfred : First of all, the plane is incredibly flexible. It can fly cross-country or even trans-Atlantic, yet it can also fly short hops, like DFW-AUS or ATL-C
43 Ulfinator : To quote a phrase I heard somewhere but can't remember the source off hand, "The closest thing that Boeing Commercial ever built to a fighter jet". On
44 Post contains links and images BR715-A1-30 : She is the most beautiful aircraft ever produced. Long Slender Body, Two Big Appendages hanging off of each side. Beautiful Nose, and she can climb li
45 PJ295 : The performance.......... If you ever get the chance fly on one into EGE. I have never experianced anything else like the tak off from EGE. You get pu
46 Post contains links and images Boeingfever777 : I think its the appearance, its so long and unique looking from any other a/c flying the skies. This would be one of my favorite carriers and a/c. Vie
47 4Left : "North American Airlines is an airline, not a canidate's plane. " North American has leased ac to Presidential candidates as well as to charter compan
48 Post contains links and images Sspontak : Delta's 757's, a mean and powerful workhorse, inside and out. A favorite of mine. View Large View MediumPhoto © Gary M. Hymes View Large View Med
49 Post contains links and images S12PPL : I love the sheer beauty of the 757. She is no doubt my favorite airplane to fly on. I just wish I get more opertunities to fly on her in the future. I
50 Upsmd11 : Well, I for one love the 757. And the airlines spoke as well. All of the majors (AA, CO, DL, UA, US, HP) and those that are now defunct too (EA, TW) c
51 NoMoreRJs : The sling-shot departures out of MDW and DCA are incredible! Long live the 757! Rev up those engines and haul a--! Can't beat a 757 out of DCA or MDW!
52 PBIflyguy : One word to describe the 757. REGAL
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