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Everyone Who Has Flown BAC 1-11 Or B732  
User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5559 times:


Hi all,

I have never flown on either of these jets, and i would like to find out what they were like to fly in, or what it sounds like, does it look old. Pictures are very welcome.

Mike

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User currently offlineJaxs170 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5525 times:

I have flown the 732, and I'll say from a pilot's perspective it is a blast to fly. The flight deck is stone age, but the plane handles like a sports car, incredibly maneuverable and very responsive on the controls. The engines are older and are not as responsive or powerful as I would have liked, but after about 5 hours worth of flying her I knew how to get ahead and anticipate needed power increases so I got them inputed about 2-4 seconds before I needed the power so it was there when I actually did need it. Now, as a passenger, I do not care for it very much in either coach or first. The best seats IMHO are the exit row seats, and the first row of coach and first, all the other seats are equally bad (including first).


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User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5514 times:

Is it pretty shaky

mike


User currently offlineVS045 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 192 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5514 times:

Love flying the 737-200, dunno why, just do. Pity they're all being taken out of service.

Cheers,
VS045



4 engines 4 long haul
User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5503 times:

VS045,

If you really wanna fly on one, if you fancied going to Edinburgh, you can get a B732 from EDI to dublin with ryanair.

Mike


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5502 times:

I have recently flown the 732 from Avior on BCN-PZO.

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I must admit that the cabin was really nice. Considering the age of the aircraft it was really in good conditions. Apart of that is was a very quiet flight.


User currently offlineJmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1298 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5455 times:

I flew BHX-PMI-BHX with European on the 732s in July. Was a cracking experience. Those things are proper little pocket rockets!

It sounds very noisy to fly in, a bit shaky and everything rattles! Was a good experience though. Was fairly uncomfortable, the noise was annoying after a bit, the seats were so uncomfortable, and in general the aircraft was a bit shabby (although thats not the aircrafts fault!).


User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5446 times:


Yeah,

i've seen them in EDI, they look like they've just been entered in Destruction Derby, European a/c are leased out though, so was it another airline that you had booked flights on.

Mike


User currently offlineEGNR From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 508 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5444 times:

I flew on a Dan-Air BAC 1-11 500 on my second holiday abroad, to Menorca around 1987-1988. I was only around 8 years old at the time, but I remember that on takeoff, the cabin was extremely noisy towards the rear.


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I've never flown on a 737-200 so can't compare the two types, but I have flown on a Transwede MD-87 also, and that was much, much quieter inside. I haven't flown on anything else of a similar configuration - rest of my flights have been 737-300s, 757s, 767, BAe 146.


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I miss the One-Elevens... they used to be fun to watch as they took off from Manchester, usually accompanied by a huge amount of noise (even with hush kits) and yellow/brown smoke.


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User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5420 times:


I saw the European 1-11's departing EDI, in the 90's, they were parked away from the Terminal and always had the rear airstairs down.

Mike


User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5398 times:

I can't remember ever having a One-Eleven flight, but I have flown on every 737 except the -600 and I can say that the 200 is definately sprightly. It feels more like a car running down a road and taking off than an airplane. It is sort of the same feeling as flying an RJ, especially a CRJ-200 where you really feel the take off as a run as opposed to a roll and seem to take off fast and land fast. Also, it is funny to have a view of the engine and see the thrust reverser drop back and make the engine look like it is broken.


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User currently offlinePJ295 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5380 times:

If your on the 737-200 and you are sitting just aft of the engines it can be very LOUD. As N1120a mentioned its cool to watch the reversers work during landing!!!!

User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7519 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5375 times:

I've never flown in the BAC 1-11 but have flown 3 or 4 times in a 732 from the early 90s to last year on US, FL, (when they both flew them) and DL just last year.

Picture a single-aisle 6-across Coach seating with no TV monitors of any type. The safety demostration is done the old-fashioned way; the F/As on board actually go through the demonstration.

Interiorwise, the DL and US interiors didn't look any different from their other aircraft. The interior of the FL 732 I flew on 6 years ago looked the oldest. The 'No Smoking' and 'Fasten Seat Belts' lighted signs were old-style all-capital lettering en lieu of either the newer lower case/first letter capitialized or the symbols.

Overall, I had no real problems or issues with the aircraft.



"TransEastern! You'll feel like you've never left the ground because we treat you like dirt!" SNL Parady ad circa 1981
User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5366 times:

It sounds like the aircraft would fall apart if you added any extra luxuries like TV (Inflight Entertainmment) to it.

User currently offlinePNEPilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5355 times:

Flew British Caledonian BAC1-11 LGW-MAN-LGW in the mid 80s

Noisy at the back... quieter nearer the front... adequate space for short-haul... got breakfast (croissant, fruit & coffee) on the early morning outbound, drinks service (including free alcohol) on the mid-afternoon inbound.

Outbound departed from 8 and routed out over the Thames over East London, got to see the "Eastenders" opening titles for real, before disappearing into cloud, the return leg was cloudy the whole way but must have been pretty direct since we were in the air less than 25 minutes and the captain apologized for rushing our drinks  Smile

My only 737 flights so far, Southwest BWI-MCO-BWI in 1997 - not sure what variant it was, sorry. Took off on time, landed on time, unremarkable flights in just about every respect except that outbound my wife & I sat opposite eachother in the exit row window seats, only time I've ever sat facing backwards except in an RAF VC-10.


User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5345 times:

I would like to ask one more thing, when both aircraft started service, were the both quiter than they are now

User currently offlineBENNETT123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7567 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5323 times:


My first flight was Bristol to Dublin in 1970.

It ambled up the runway and staggered off the end.

However once off the ground, it went up like a rocket. By comparison the B737-200 that we flew back on was very quiet and almost sedate.


User currently offlineBAViscount From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2338 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5315 times:

I flew the 1-11's several times back in the 80's with BA JER-LHR, Monarch LTN-IBZ-LTN and USAir PIT-CLT-PIT and all were great but noisy trips. On the LTN-IBZ flight we got to board via the tail stairs, which was the first and only time I've ever done that. The IBZ-LTN flight had us sitting in the rear-facing exit row seats, which was interesting on takeoff - with the great climb rate of those things it felt like you were going to slide right out of the seat. And infact, the JER-LHR trip was my first ever flight in a jet aircraft - after only having flown Viscounts and Trislanders, it felt like we were almost heading straight up on takeoff! Have to say that my only memories of the USAir flights were that they were severly delayed due to heavy snow in PIT, but I was flying PIT-CLT to meet my family in NC for the first time...which was nice!

So all in all, I have fond memories of those aircraft, even if they were as noisy as hell at the back!



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User currently offlineRjnut From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5297 times:

my very fisrt flight ever was a BAC-111 on Braniff from Kansas City to Ohare in 1968 with full hot breakfast on board...and upgraded to 1st class on my first flight ever. I was 12yrs old


User currently offlineTpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5272 times:

I have done every type of 737, but the 736, yes even the rare 731, and the 111 too. Great planes, I kinda regret never flying a 741, I had a chance once, but couldn't get J or P, faced with 8hr in row 42, I bolted and hoped a DC-10-30 in Biz, thinking I'd catch my -100 another day, but damn if they aren't all retired! Oh well I guess I had my chance.

Of all the "old" types I miss the DC10 the most, she had a charming whine during take-off. It always reminds me of being a teen on my first trip to Europe. My last DC10 was a few years ago into NRT, but I still see FedEx going over head all the time, gotta love the DC-10.


User currently offlineCraigy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 1118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5270 times:

I flew on G-CEAC (European PALMAIR 737-200) twice this summer on BMI Baby flights.

A great experience and excellent for an aircraft over 30 years old (entered service with Sabena in 1974).

Brought back the memories of when I used to fly on them frequently with BA in the early '90s.

Craig.


User currently offlineJAXpax From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5269 times:

Just another airplane. B737-200 got me to my destination on several dozen occasions. Nothing spectacular about it.

User currently offlineNomadic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5253 times:

I have flown the BAC 1-11 with the original Braniff, Mohawak Airlines and Florida Express (before they were bought out by Braniff II)

This was one of my favorit aircraft. Like flying a sports car, a real peppy little jet The interior was surprisingly roomy for an aircraft its size. Much better than today's RJs.


User currently offlineNomadic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5251 times:

I have flown the BAC 1-11 with the original Braniff, Mohawak Airlines and Florida Express (before they were bought out by Braniff II)

This was one of my favorite aircraft. Like flying a sports car, a real peppy little jet The interior was surprisingly roomy for an aircraft its size. Much better than today's RJs.


User currently offlineGearup From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 578 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5252 times:

I flew on Ryanair's last 1-11 from Stansted to Dublin. I was seated in row 5 on right side of aircraft at window. It was as smooth as glass and quiet too. It took off like a missile but then there were only 40 or so pax on board. I will never forget it, the 1-11 was a beautiful aircraft and all too rare these days. A pilot friend who flew Hunters for the RAF told me the 1-11 handles like a fighter!!! On another occasion I got to sit in the jump seat of a Zambia Airways B737-200 on flight from Lusaka to Livingston and we overflew the Victoria Falls on approach to Livingston. What an experience, just unforgettable. The 737 was an Aer Lingus one leased to ZA, I think it was EI-ASD. The 200 is still my favourite 737!

GU



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25 L410Turbolet : I flew Maersk Air (BA livery) 1-11 in Sept. 1995 BHX-AMS and Air France 737-200 in March 1999 PRG-CDG.
26 N1120a : >have done every type of 737, but the 736, yes even the rare 731, and the 111 too. Great planes, I kinda regret never flying a 741, I had a chance on
27 Dogfighter2111 : If you were to fly Air Nambia, i think they use 747 SP flights between there base and LHR.
28 Post contains links and images Dogfighter2111 : Here are a few of the oldies: View Large View MediumPhoto © Colin K. Work - AirTeamImages View Large View MediumPhoto © Johan Ljungdahl View
29 Post contains images Andz : Flew on the 1-11 several times on Nationwide before they withdrew them, great little plane, smooth and quiet and felt like it performed pretty well to
30 Afay1 : I flew recently on Aerosvit's 737-200 from Moscow to Kiev and while it had comfy new leather seats, the interior was cleary quite old and boy was she
31 Rongotai : 731s in the late 60s on a number of occasions AKL-WLG- AKL on NZNAC and also LHR-FRA-LHR on LH. Very exciting at the time to be on what was then a sta
32 Irishjohn : Fond memories of the BAC 1-11!! Fab aircraft - speedy takeoff, sliced through the air and if a 'old hand' pilot a feather landing! Many great trips -
33 Daddad525 : I have flown on every 737 variant apart from model 600 if that exists. The 737 200 was a real pocket rocket used in the UK not only by BA but also by
34 Baw716 : I have flown both the BAC-111 and the 732 numerous times. I was a kid (just 5) when I flew in the BAC-111 for the first time in Central America, from
35 JGPH1A : I flew on a number of Court Line B11's in the late 60's/early 70's (I was very young at the time !), but do remember the interiors (they had the lunch
36 Diesel1 : Dogfighter2111 Although the engines on both the 737-200 (P&W JT9) and 1-11 (RR Spey) are same models as they were introduced with, many aircraft were
37 CV990 : Hi! Yes I flew both models, and I even flew the 737-100!!! Here go my details: BAC 1-11 Date: 1980/09/29 Airline: BCAL Registration: G-AXJM Flight: L
38 Qm001 : Hi all, I think that Bac 1-11 was a great aircraft for a total flying experience. I had the pleasure of travelling on an Air Malawi Bac 1-11 -500 seri
39 Jat74l : I have a friend who used to fly the 1-11 back in the 80's (he's on 747-400 now) and he call's them "Ground Grippers"!!!! John
40 Post contains links and images Flyguyclt : I used to fly for Florida Express Airlines out of MCO in the late 80's. We had the BAC 1-11's. Great little tanker. We were thrilled when Braniff Part
41 GoneFlying : It seemed that every summer holiday I went on as a kid was on a BAC 1-11, I guess it was because we always flew Dan Air or Dan Air London and I think
42 Post contains links and images 7LBAC111 : Ah - the 1-11. What a plane. I worked for AB Airlines back in the 90's and we flew a couple of Europeans aircraft. It was and still is one of the more
43 Pe@rson : Flown on 6 732s to date. I love 'em: they're loud when outside and their seats are normally a little 'worn in' so more comfortable. I have to say, tho
44 Klmyank : Flew on the last CY BAC 1-11 flight from DXB-LCA. Was very loud, even in J-class. I used to love flying these because of the 2x2 seating in the front,
45 Post contains images AdamWright : Flew on a 732 ROA-CLT back about 4 years ago. Back then, I didnt think much of it, but now looking back on it, I'm extremely happy I got that opportun
46 Post contains links and images Elwood64151 : Never flown in a 1-11, but the 732s were a common companion just a few years ago. They were loud, had a rough ride, and dirty. But in actuallity, they
47 Post contains links and images European : I have been in a few and have flew on G-CEAC (Below) View Large View MediumPhoto © Stefan Welsch It was a very nice flight and very spacious(Beca
48 Logan22L : Flew on a Mohawk 1-11 back in 1975, PIT - CVG, if I remember correctly. I sat near the rear, and those engines were pretty loud, but I loved that. I w
49 Estick : Flew Austral Lienas Aerea's Bac1-11 I believe in the year 1990/91 and dozens of times on B737-200's (Aerolineas Argentinas, Lapa, American Falcon). I
50 Dazed767 : 737-200 is an OK ride, still a bit loud in front of the engines (sounds like flying on a dust buster vac haha). It's fun to sit behind the wing and wa
51 Post contains links and images Dogfighter2111 : Before, i excluded photos of some BAC1-11 a/c, so here's some: View Large View MediumPhoto © Mel Lawrence View Large View MediumPhoto © Bri
52 Jmc757 : Dogfighter, not all European aircraft are leased out. The vast majority of their operations are leases (eg bmibaby at the moment, the long term Palmai
53 Vatveng : I flew on lots and lots of Piedmont 732's, pretty sure I flew on one of those same birds on both US Airways and Eastwind (who bought mostly used USAir
54 Dogfighter2111 : To be honest, i have never flown on one, but i will hopefully be flying on one soon.
55 Post contains links and images Dogfighter2111 : I would like to say, that i think that the B737-200 View Large View MediumPhoto © marco ceschi looks like the Dassault Mercure 100 View Large Vi
56 Post contains images Luxair : Flew several times with Luxair's 737-200 ADV reg.nr. LX-LGI called "Princesse Marie-Astrid" and LX-LGH called "Prince Guillaume". It was loud but ever
57 BrightCedars : Had the pleasure myself to fly the 737-200 several times in several colors of defunct Sabena, I remember BRU-CDG and back runs in C class to connect t
58 Post contains images UTA_flyinghigh : I had the pleasure of flying FR's 732's agreat many times in the past couple of years : The main attraction is obviously flying on such an old and noi
59 Tano : I flew both types. I regularly fly on 732´s, as we have a lot of them flying here ( AR - AU ). It is a garden variety type, quite noisy from the insi
60 Convair990 : I flew on 732's numerous times and the cabin was just about average in terms of appearance (not too old looking but not like the ultra modern cabins),
61 VivaGunners : I have flown the 732 three times. the first two with BA back in sept. 2000 VRN(Verona italy)-LGW and return. the interior was good, more or less the p
62 DIA : The 732 is one of a few remaining 1st-Gen jets that you can still catch a flight on. Sure, they're noisy and bumpy, but that's what earlier aviation a
63 TZ : Wow - sixteen plugs by William of William's own shots. Even for Mr Ronciere that has to be a record? I've had the pleasure of flying a major corporate
64 717-200 : AirTran's 732's had to have the worst seat pitch I have ever seen on an airliner. It had to be less than 30'! Another weird thing about those 732's wa
65 Post contains images SA006 : I have flown alot of SAA's 732's. RecentlyI flew DUR-JNB on ZS-SIB as SA550. SOme of the best aircraft around...Sometimes given the name "fluffy" I ha
66 Xkorpyoh : About 2 years ago I flew one of the BAC1-11 of Tikal Jets from Guatemala to Tikal. I was so excited because I have always loved this plane and I thoug
67 Post contains links and images BCal : During my childhood I flew on the BAC 111 (the "One Eleven") many times and I have fond memories of this fine aircraft. It was loved by passengers and
68 Blueshamu330s : Ahhhh the BAC 1-11. My first ever commercial jet flight was with Dan Air on the loved G-ATTP, a -207, MAN-MAH. What a robust aircraft. Solid and durab
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