September11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 23 Posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7665 times:
MontanaFL From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7594 times:
I think DL had them for a short period of time while waiting on the L-1011 to come into service. DL at one time had all three jumbo's (B-747, DC-10 and the L-1011) in their fleet.
Jetjeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1415 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7576 times:
I have some pics when dal had them and in fact ive got it looks like 101 sitting right here,,,they were nice planes... I took one atl to mia once,,,i knew they flew ord to atl and atl to mia and back...then entered into some kind of agreement with panam where their crews took the plane..but it was sold off,and i believe it is still in service as a cargo ship....it was one of the best looking planes of its day....well braniffs orange pumpkins wernt to bad....
JetBlast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1198 posts, RR: 11 Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7556 times:
The livery looks a little weird on a 747! But still okay...
OB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2967 posts, RR: 8 Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7539 times:
I think DL had them for a short period of time while waiting on the L-1011 to come into service. DL at one time had all three jumbo's (B-747, DC-10 and the L-1011) in their fleet.
I believe that they were the first airline to operate all three simultaneously.
...i knew they flew ord to atl and atl to mia and back...then entered into some kind of agreement with panam where their crews took the plane...
I think this was for the ATL-LHR route which Delta wasn't allowed to fly (I think because of Bermuda II), so the flight was technically a Pan Am flight, just flown with a DL aircraft.
Dtw9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1048 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7532 times:
In march 1974 I flew Deltas flight 25 from DTW to TPA. Flew F-class , very nice flight. Remember Delta flying 74s, L10s and DC-10s to DTW all at the same time
Clickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9444 posts, RR: 72 Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7448 times:
Jetjeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1415 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7424 times:
I would need to do some research but one of these planes had a very interesting lifespan. but with that huge widget on the side you knew it was DAL, and that thing was better looking than my girlfriend
Flybynight From Norway, joined Jul 2003, 992 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7394 times:
MontanaFL said - I think DL had them for a short period of time while waiting on the L-1011 to come into service. DL at one time had all three jumbo's (B-747, DC-10 and the L-1011) in their fleet.
I know this has been discussed many times, but I have always believed that the term Jumbo was only in reference to the 747. The DC10 and TriStar are widebodies.
I don't think there is a formal definition of Jumbo out there, so I guess the DC10 and TriStar could be included, but it seem to be linked mostly to the 747.
Zrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 2872 posts, RR: 10 Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7383 times:
Most US majors flew the 747 at one point, save Western and Southwest.
Jetjeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1415 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7368 times:
Well us air wasnt really around piedmont and alegheny...they were regionals.
Did eastern ever have any 47s...i knew they were big on the 10-11s
Zrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 2872 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7339 times:
Ah yes, I should have exluded the US/PI family from the list.
Dayflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7317 times:
Wow. Great looking ship! Ya learn somethin new everyday!
September11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 23 Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7310 times:
Was Republic a major airline? Ozark? Please help.
Clickhappy, is your name J Allen King Jr.? That's a nice photo!
Gdjet16 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 41 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7287 times:
Delta did indeed operate 5 DC-10's as a stop gap due to the delays in the L-1011 program. After obtaining the L-1011's, they were sold, but operated under lease. Is it possible that the 747s were used for routes that were simply too long for the pre- L-1011-500? Since the L-1011-500 did not come online until 1978, I cant think of any other aircraft Delta would have owned capable of long range flights besides these 747s pictured.
Clickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9444 posts, RR: 72 Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7275 times:
Jetjeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1415 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7264 times:
Well when north central and southern mergered it became republic,and i guess you could say they were pretty much a major prior to the nw takeover, they were running 757s, and flew coast to coast,They had more planes than some of these quote majors today.... Old ozark never made it big time...they ran those 9s and those old props for years...i think twa took them over....
Sspontak From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 467 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7244 times:
Besides Delta, here are some other good old 747 operators of yesteryear. I actually never saw any of these in person, but here they are:
Jetjeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1415 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7211 times:
OK yeah the ones eastern had were leased from pan am,,they must have had them for just a short while,
AA had some 47s, and i toured their first 747sp when it was delivered and it was nice....I dont think the sp fit americans mold to well...
And Braniffs orange pumpkins, I think they only had two that ran Hnl flyts,,,but one had white engine cowling and the other didnt...there were a few minor differences...
Gdjet16 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 41 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7181 times:
A 747 in American West Colors?
Does anybody know where American West flew those 742's to? The caption on the photo says that the aircraft pictured will continue from LAS to HNL to Nagoya? I didn't know American West flew those routes. Can someone wiser then I explain? Thank you to anyone who knows
Dtw9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1048 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7168 times:
Gdjet16, Deltas 74s never operated outside the U.S. other than the PAN-AM interchange, which by the way started with the DC-8-52. Delta also had DC8-61s for their longhaul routes in the U.S. The 74s were bought strickley because of competetive reasons, As Eastern had orginally bought four 747s then cancelled them and leased some from Pan-am. National had also purchased 2 , so to keep up with the jones's Delta purchased 5
September11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 23 Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7158 times:
HP used 747s! I know that's strange one HP guy told me they were to expensive to maintain that they let it go
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7154 times:
Does anybody know where American West flew those 742's to?
America West (not American West) flew those 742s PHX-HNL-NGO.
Gdjet16 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 41 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7142 times:
Thank you, Dtw9. In that case, do you happen to know what aircraft Delta started trans-Atlantic service with? Did they not start international routes until obtaining the 767's?
25 Dtw9: Delta started with the L1011-200 then switched to the L-10-500
26 Jetjeanes: HMM i know dal had Intl routes with the l-10-11, They had some 8s that would have had range,I know they served frankfort germany in the early to mid 7
27 OttoPylit: Yea, Delta operating the 747 was just a matter of keeping up with the Joneses, as much as I hate using that metaphor. They operated them from 1970-77,
28 Dtw9: United originally ordered 30 DC-10s then reduced this to 22 and bought Deltas 5 and leased them to Delta for 5 years to cover for late Tristar deliver
29 N1120a: >AA had some 47s, and i toured their first 747sp when it was delivered and it was nice....I dont think the sp fit americans mold to well...
30 Aeroman62: DL's 747 flew routes like the following: ATL/LAX, SFO, DAL/DFW, LAS ORD/Florida DTW/Florida ATL/Florida ATL/IAD/LHR (PA Codeshare, IAD/LHR operated by
31 Gr8SlvrFlt: As mentioned above, Delta ordered the 747 in the 60s when travel was booming and just about every major U.S. carrier was anticipating the good times t
32 CLT18R: Eastern leased those 747's from PanAm for a few seasons for the New York - Florida runs. Some were repainted, others were in hybrid PanAm - Eastern Co
33 Drerx7: Delta also acquired DC10s a second time when they picked up Western--along with the entire 733 fleet.
34 MTChemNerd757: do we have any fakes of a 744 in DL's current scheme? that'd be neato. kind of a funny history they have though, buying DC-10s, getting rid of them, l
35 Clipper002: Pan Am operated 2 747's that had formerly been leased to DL. They were 747-132 models. Re-registered as N902PA and N725PA upon entering the Pan Am fle
36 Thrust: Yea, DL operated 5 747s from 1970-1977. I never knew they had access to LHR because of Pan Am! Well, it is definitely a bummer they didn't have the ro
37 FoxBravo: that thing was better looking than my girlfriend Ouch...I hope she doesn't read these boards...
38 GVROYphx: OMG..why am I reading this and why is this a thread???? - RR
39 Mdl21483: If I remember correctly, theres a note in "The History of Delta" book that says that in return for the DC-10's leased from UA, a few L10's were counte
40 Ord: "...in return for the DC-10's leased from UA, a few L10's were counter leased to United for a bit." This is not true. United never operated any L-1011
41 ORDagent: As far as HP and the 747 it was one of the things that sent them to chapter 11 the first time. They had planned on making HNL a hub for Asian service.
42 Mdl21483: thanks for the correction, ORD! thought it seemed a bit iffy since I've only seen the UA L10's as PA ones everywhere else...
43 OzarkD9S: I remember flying a DL 747 ORD-PBI. The ORD-PBI 727 had a mechanical so they put everyone on the ORD-MIA 747 and it stopped at PBI. It was in October
44 Jeffie813: i've seen a picture in airliners magazine of the delta 747 taking off out of LAX. the widget looked really weird on a 747....
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