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User currently offlineATLhomeCMH From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 770 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1692 times:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TRAVEL/11/09/airlines.unsafe.water.ap/index.html

Here's an exerpt from the CNN article:

In August and September, the EPA tested drinking water aboard 158 randomly selected domestic and international passenger aircraft and found that 12.6 percent did not meet federal standards.

Twenty of the planes that were tested -- which ranged from small commuter aircraft and jumbo jets -- tested positive for total coliform bacteria, signaling the possible presence of other harmful bacteria. Two planes tested positive for E. coli bacteria, which can cause gastrointestinal illness if it is severe enough.


The airlines that signed agreements with EPA were Alaska Airlines, Aloha Airlines, AA, HP, TZ, CO, HA, B6, YX, NW, UA and US.

DL and WN are still negotiating an agreement w/ the EPA. Now, are they talking about the lavatory water? I wouldn't drink water from there if you paid me a million bucks.




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User currently offlineJmsintexas From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1675 times:

Don't most airlines serve bottled water?



User currently offlineATLhomeCMH From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 770 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1668 times:

Don't most airlines serve bottled water?

That's what I'm wondering. I still don't understand what they mean by "drinking water."



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User currently offlineDaumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 693 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1653 times:

can't mean the lavatory water since it says "no drinking water" beside it... at least at most airlines.

strange...


User currently offlineNeilalp From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1034 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1646 times:

Ice???




Filler so I can post







User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5316 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

Not sure about other aircraft but the 747 has a little drink tap near the galleys that you can get a paper cup and have water from

(On BA, QF, MH, SQ) at least


User currently offlineATLhomeCMH From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 770 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1644 times:

Ice???

Don't they bring bags of ice in when stocking the galley for use during the drink service? I don't think the ice is made onboard.




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User currently offlineNeilalp From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1034 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1636 times:

Not ice made on board, but back two years ago there were big stories out of DTW that not to have Ice on NW flights b/c the water that had been used to make it didn't meet standards. I tried searching online for the article but I believe those were the facts. Maybe someone who remembers more can fill in the rest.

User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1632 times:

I was thinking about this as I flew back from MSP, chewing my ice cubes, after attending a conference on water-borne contaminants a few weeks ago. The ~13% detection rate is similar to the percentage of domestic water distribution systems that also test positive. I wonder if the ice is brought on board, is it made from large sources of tap water (at "ice plants"). It's possible that airplanes have little to do with the problem, but more information is needed.

Logan


User currently offlineDalmd88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2614 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1626 times:

Ice is brought on board. Most serve bottled water now so the only water that is used as drinking water is for coffee. The water used in the lav sinks is the same tank as the galley.

User currently offlineKANEBEAR From United States of America, joined May 2002, 953 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1594 times:

So I take it none of you have ever seen the FAs refilling the water bottles with lav-water on long-haul flights? The only water I drink on board is sparkling water and/or the sealed bottle that one gets in J/F class.

User currently offlineEyesinthesky From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1588 times:

I have also nioticed a drinking water fountain aboard the wet-leased A/C of United for SAS IAD-CPH route. I wouldnt drink from it as long as I could get an ice cold bottle of water. Also, what about the coffee water?



User currently offlineNWAFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1893 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1580 times:

Neilalp

Actually it was the water on board..(in the tanks). NWA was one of 6 or 7 airlines that had the problems..it had nothing to do with the ice.

Keep in mind here folks, its the WATER that is used for coffee and tea's. We have bottle water on board our flights.

To this day I will never ever have coffee on Southwest. It is so gross that their flight attendants cook in the coffee pots...Just last night I saw a gal heating up spaghetti sauce in the coffee pot..when she was done she poured Club Soda in the pot, swished it around, poured it out...then made a pot of coffee for a pax. YUK! I have seen this for years.
Those pots don't get washed either every day..( if I remember right, they never get washed from what crews have told me)



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User currently offlineKYIPpilot From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1551 times:

I've been told by former and current airline pilots to never ever drink water from an airplane, only bottled water. I have heard that stuff is practically growing in the tank there.


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User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1536 times:

Coffee water I assume is fine as long as it doesn't have particulates in it. Coffee water is usually boiled before the coffee is introduced so it kills off most of the bacteria.

I am sure you will have mildew and other fungi growing in aircraft reservoirs since they are not treated chemically after every flight. So stick to what you are assured is bottled water on a flight.

I'm a big fan of tap water, however bottled water looks very enticing when the tap water turns brown. I've had that happen to me a few times on my travels.

What I don't understand, is that in the USA where water goes through rigorous treatment and filtration processes, people still refuse to drink it. This is assuming you live in a sizable city and not near wells. Bottled water is nothing more that processed tap water with alpine mountains on the packaging.



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User currently offlineATLhomeCMH From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 770 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1509 times:

Ice is brought on board. Most serve bottled water now so the only water that is used as drinking water is for coffee. The water used in the lav sinks is the same tank as the galley.

Note to self: don't drink the coffee, even if its an early-morning flight and smells sooooooo good.



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User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1486 times:

What I don't understand, is that in the USA where water goes through rigorous treatment and filtration processes, people still refuse to drink it.

Flybyguy: Amen to that! I work in the field of drinking water regulation, and I only drink tap water while I'm on the ground. Bottled water can be from many sources, including processed tap water, springs, treated groundwater, etc., and there are few regulations controlling it compared to tap water. Just another example of people ignoring the science, and believing the hype.

For more information on the airline testing, go to:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041109/sc_nm/airlines_water_dc_1

Logan

[Edited 2004-11-10 16:48:25]

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