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User currently offlineCRPilot From Costa Rica, joined Nov 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3286 times:

I'm all about safety, but this is a bit much!

http://news.airwise.com/stories/2004/11/1099995898.html


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User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2241 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3270 times:

Okay, two questions:

1. Where can I get it?

2. Does it come in a compact size, say in eyeglasses/sunglasses versions?

 Big grin



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User currently offlineCRPilot From Costa Rica, joined Nov 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3262 times:

Yes it would be great!!! =) But seriously, I don't think I would want to get scan like that...It's a privacy issue.


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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3238 times:

Absolutely unnecessary. For the next twenty years or so, passengers will not allow a highjacking.

User currently offlineJfkaua From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1000 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3192 times:

doesn't anyone know here that you can do this with a video camera and filters.. and its not as impressive as it sounds.. its a very grainy image.. n ur not really gonna see much unless someones wearing very thing clothing... The camera that can do this was a sony handcam.. dnt remember the exact model.. it was recalled rather quickly for just this reason... it doesn't really look like the people don't have clothes on.. its more like they are wearing a clear material slightly tinted... this also happened with a japanese phone camera design... its not really done on purpose its just when the night filters line up just right..



[Edited 2004-11-09 23:54:54]

User currently offlineCRPilot From Costa Rica, joined Nov 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3157 times:

Somehow the machine they talk about here sounds a bit more sophisticated than that. I mean after all it was not an accident, it was intended to do this.


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User currently offlineJfkaua From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1000 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3115 times:

no i am sure it is... but i have a feeling after seeing thousands of people walk by naked... it gets old after the first day..

User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3107 times:

This is a type of x-ray machine not a video camera. TSA demonstrated the technology in the US about a year ago to a large uproar. Here is one article about their demo:
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,59401,00.html

Here is the x-ray picture of a TSA researcher who demonstrated the machine.
http://www.wired.com/news/images/0,2334,59401-7859,00.html



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3095 times:

Oh and just to show its not just thin or wet clothing, here is a picture of what she was wearing when she walked through the machine.
http://www.canoe.com/CNEWS/TechNews/2003/06/26/120530-ap.html



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently offlineCRPilot From Costa Rica, joined Nov 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3084 times:

Thanks for the pics FATFlyer...it's a bit scary how good the resolution is. I stand by my post...is a little too much. It reminds me a bit of that Arnold movie "Total Recall".


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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3078 times:

Your welcome.

CNN international has a different picture with their article, it shows the x-ray of a male with several guns hidden under his clothes.
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TRAVEL/11/09/xray.reut/



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 16993 posts, RR: 67
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3071 times:

As I said in the other thread, big whoop! They can take all the pics of me they want. And besides, they only see a contour. No texture or color.


"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineSian From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3053 times:

Hiya,
I can't understand what people are frightened of. The scan only shows some vague body contours, as does the manual "pat down". Surely this device is preferable to any previous method of detecting weapons?
As I have a manual "pat down" every time I go through security, I'd be perfectly happy to submit to a "low-level x-ray". The security people already know how fat/thin I look by my clothing, so they certainly don't need to confirm it by X-ray!!

Hwyl,

Siân Big grin



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User currently offlineCtbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3028 times:

If this does roll out to other airports I foresee a burgeoning market in lead lined underwear. Any venture capitalists out there??  Laugh out loud

Charles, SJ




The customer isn't a moron, she is your wife -David Ogilvy
User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2973 times:

Hopefully, they can come up with another name for this machine!
This certainly is a grey area (no pun intended). I'm all for improved measures to ensure public safety... But, those images are quite revealing.... Then again, now-a-days, everybody is checking each other out and passing judgment on their physical attributes, anyway... Especially with all the revealing clothing a lot of females wear these days. So, I guess it's not such a big deal after all (again, no pun intended).


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39693 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2959 times:

AWspicious:
Especially with all the revealing clothing a lot of females wear these days. So, I guess it's not such a big deal after all (again, no pun intended).

An evolution in fashion is NO excuss for violations on our civil liberties.



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User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2224 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2924 times:
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Definitely not a new story but when you consider the average body that us Americans are working on now the unappealing aspects of working TSA get relationally worse.

Yuch.



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User currently offlineCRPilot From Costa Rica, joined Nov 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2903 times:

AW and Superfly are right...this is a grey area...there's gotta be some insurance that this technology is carefully used, and that it can be improved to avoid a violation to ones privacy.


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User currently offlineMD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2892 times:

So much for the element of surprise.. Big grin


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User currently offlineAlektoronto From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 328 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

It never ceases to amaze me that people (especially) Americans are willing to subject themselves to in the name of "security". Prior to 9/11 I bet the Yanks would be screaming about all the things that are happening now..naked xrays, no fly lists, intimate pat downs...what a scared nation!
There are articles after articles of screeners in the US that steal from luggage, conduct rude patdowns, bad behaviour and meanwhile miss a lot of potentially dangerous materials that are passed thru! such as guns and knives?!?!?

If this happens I guarantee its a matter of time before we see the website www.hiddennudeairportxrays.com!

cheers
Alek


User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1710 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2862 times:

Just wait until someone develops the technology to record these images, catches somebody a little bit famous, and releases the images on the net...

User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39693 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2694 times:

Perhaps a radical change in our Middle East policy could put a stop to all of this paranoia.
But that would be logical.



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