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Airlines Operating A330/A340 And 777s  
User currently offlineTrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 3970 posts, RR: 14
Posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2349 times:
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there are a number of airlines who operate both types and have continued to do so for a while (Cathay, Thai, Korean, MAS, Emirates to name a few), someone must have some idea about what these airlines think of the relative merits of each type.

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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2297 times:

...exactly what's your question here?

User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8320 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2282 times:

SQ and AF also operate A340 and 777's. However I'm not sure that Thai currently operate A340's. I do believe that they have them on order.

User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6181 posts, RR: 74
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2252 times:

This is what someone from an airline flying both A330 and 777 said:
People Mover = A333
Premium Catcher = B772
Volume Cargo = A333
Weighty Cargo = B772
>12000kms = B772/A332

Use'em right and they'll both deliver....

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User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2232 times:

how about Austrian Airlines? Although they operate A330/340 themselves, they also use 777s through Lauda.




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User currently offlineUta_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2217 times:

AF operates all three; A330-200, A340-300/300E, 777-200ER and 777-300ER.

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User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2772 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2198 times:

Air China operates 777 & 343.
Add Asiana & China Southern to that list shortly and Eva Air for next year.
Each type fulfill their needs.

CX - 777s operate high density regional routes, 333 - medium density regional routes, 343 - medium-density long-haul
CA - 777s operate high density regional routes, 343 - medium density long-haul
SQ - 777s operate all around, 345 - ultra-long haul
TG - 777s operate high density regional, 333-medium density regional routes.
MH - 777s operate long-haul, 333/332 - regional routes
Even between the 772 & 333 there is some capacity differences as the 777 is slightly larger.

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OZ - 777s operate all-around, 333 - regional
CZ - 777s operate all-around, 332 - lower-density all-around
BR - 773 operate long-haul, 332 - lower-density all-around

AF is probably the most unique that the 772 and 343 basically serve the same purpose, medium-density long-haul.

While the 772ER & A343 are in the same class, there is sizeable capacity difference between the 773 & 333 or 332. The difference can be similar to 757 & 738 for narrow-body routes. Matching capacity & range for specific route pair and with fleet commonalities.

For example, one can wonder why OZ is acquiring the 333 when they already have the 777 or 763 in their fleet. Well, they have a large fleet of A321s that is still growing and replacing the 734, so it's not such a big jump and pilot training is not too difficult.

User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 6937 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

CX opearte all 3 types but the airlines that operate a mix include AF, SQ, MH, KE, BR, OZ, TG, EK etc...

User currently offlineSAA-SAL From Belgium, joined Nov 2000, 356 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

As much as I can understand the choice of A332 and B772A or A332 and B772ER or A333 and B772ER , I cant undrstand the choice of Thai for instance who have A333 and B772A. Both have lower range and higher capacity.

On the other hand I see a great possibility in combining A332 and B772/ER. The differences in capacity mean they can only be complimentary.



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User currently offlineTrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 3970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1953 times:
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maybe I should have worded this thread better, obviously for certain airlines a specific plane may be better for certain routes but overall do these carriers with a "mixed" fleet find one particularly cheaper to run or less maintenance intensive etc. etc

User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1907 times:

Egyptair operate all three:

B772ER

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