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Rumor: CO Express To Get ERJ 170s?  
User currently offlineCOFreqFlyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 397 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5114 times:

Heard a rumor from an ExpressJet F/A on a flight today that COEX will be getting some ERJ170s in the near future. Interesting option if CO does actually start dropping their 737-500s.

Apologies if this appears in another thread, I was unable to find anything in a search.


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User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5041 times:

I think it's a great idea...they need something in between the ERJ and the 735. However I think CO pilots have a scope clause...the planes would have to hold under 70 pax I believe...making it not quite as lucrative.

User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4050 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4987 times:
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I think sooner or later it will happen.......people are not completely satisfied with the ERJ like they were when they came out.....with times changing we need to keep our customers happy and sooner or later the 170 will have to do the trick.


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User currently offlineCOFreqFlyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 397 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4953 times:

people are not completely satisfied with the ERJ like they were when they came out

GTFO. I'm one of the crazy people who actually like riding on 135s/145s.... nothing like seat 1A, except when the window gets all scratched up from the jetways. Of course I'll take the F upgrade on the larger aircraft all day long....

Hopefully one of these days when I get tired of doing network engineering and have my CPL/MEL/IR and 1200/200, I can move from 1A up to 0B, and maybe eventually 0A.  Big grin



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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4050 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4943 times:
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its just that the 145's have lost its magic.....when those things first came out they were the greatest things in the world for the elite members...they loved them....but that was over 4 years ago....we need something else that will attract them again and really love our planes.. (yes i know they already do) just a figure of speech


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User currently offlineCRPilot From Costa Rica, joined Nov 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4885 times:

I hope we get them! I've also heard a ton of rumors about possibly flying them under the ExpressJet banner, since that "dinosaur" scope clause still in place with CO.

[Edited 2004-11-13 20:01:55]


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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8373 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4771 times:

Rumor between Expressjet pilots is quite strong that they'll be aquiring big Embraers soon as well. However, that having been said, it's just a rumor and pilots don't run the company.


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User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4726 times:

Um, ERJ170s don't exist. EMB170s do. Remember, this is not the same line as the ERJ 135/145.

>Rumor between Expressjet pilots is quite strong that they'll be aquiring big Embraers soon as well. However, that having been said, it's just a rumor and pilots don't run the company<

Well, considering the tension between the Expressjet pilots and management right now, they will probably ask for a big pay raise to incorporate the planes. Also, considering the strength of ALPA at CO mainline (expressjet are also ALPA) I am sure they will have something to say about any change to mainline flying. I actually think that the 170s could be used to expand flying, and not replace a single 737



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User currently offlineMonorail From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 628 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4714 times:

It would certainly liven up CLE spotting  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
As for the practical aspect, an ERJ170 or one of the new ERJ's would fit in nicely with the rest of CO's fleet when the 735's are factored out. Something needs to take the 735's place. Plus, it couldn't hurt to add a few more regional aircraft.



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User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2081 posts, RR: 36
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4693 times:

While we're discussing the E170, Trans States Airlines is going to buy some and operate them under the name "New Air" due to scope clauses. I know this doesn't have anything to do with CO, but I just thought I'd add that in. Big thumbs up

User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4687 times:

LambertMan-New Air? Doesn't jetBlue hold the rights to that name?


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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4654 times:

Well my search to find if this thread had been run before took a whole 5 seconds.

Unless CO changes its Scope Clause, COX will not see the Embraer 170. There was some mention of 'training' but that most likely would be for 'on-call' to cover other operators that fly the -170. Here in BNA USAirways Express (MidAtlantic) are covered by American.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1805373/



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User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2081 posts, RR: 36
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4634 times:

SHUpirate,

My bad, its called "New Corp Air". There are other articles about Trans States more than likely getting E170's I'm just too lazy to look them up.


User currently offlineLat41 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 479 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4601 times:

Will probably get spanked for this but....A perfect opportunity is presented for 717-200s

User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4567 times:

717's would be a good plane, but doesn't make sense for CO... They are getting rid of the last few MD-80's they have which would eliminate any semblance of commonality... With the E170, employees will have so experience with the other ERJ's so it isn't totally new... Not to mention CO/ExpressJet seem to have a strong relationship with Embraer.

User currently offlineAAplatnumflier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4552 times:

Man this would be so great.... if only AA would follow for American Eagle.....

User currently offlineAkjetblue From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 790 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4113 times:

Hmmm...

The 170 looks like a nice enough plane to be in CO colors,

But how about those NW DC-9s? Big grin

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User currently offlineMdl21483 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4050 times:

With the amount of ERJ-135's and 145's already in Expressjet, It seems logical that they would seriously consider upgrading/supplementing/ expanding the fleet to a higher capacity model, i.e. the 170.

We already see the Chautauqua and MidAtlantic 170s here in IAH, so some familiarity already exists from other carriers having them here.


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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3745 times:

I have a hunch you'll se a CO or XJT order for the 170 in the near future. Lord knows, there are markets that are too big for a 145, but can't support a 735, that the 170 would be perfect for here in CLE.

I'm hoping it does happen in the next few years. I think XJT is waiting to resolve it's contract with the pilots first before doing anything about that.


User currently offlineAdmluvs2fly From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3647 times:

On a similar topic, with the NW pilots contract stating that pinnacle can't fly anymore crj and NW pilots are to fly the routes with smaller a/c , does that mean some erj's are on order.

What does the new contract mean in reguards to who is flying what a/c.


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