Corey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2534 posts, RR: 4 Posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2735 times:
I'm trying to compile information on the cause of ground based accidents and incidents due to bad weather. Can anyone out there point me to some relevant links or information, including statistics that I may have missed??
OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2716 times:
Three accidents that immediaely come to mind are the NWA 727/DC9 runway collision at DTW, the Pan Am/KLM runway collision at Tenerife, and that one in Italy (SAS MD80?) where they collided with another aircraft crossing the runway. Fog was a factor in all three. You also might check the FAA/NTSB sites for similar accidents, and also search for the topic of runway incursions, especially the ones that occur in low visibility conditions.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7963 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2659 times:
To elaborate on OPNL's comments.
In December 1990 in DTW a NW 727-200 on takeoff roll on 3C (now 3L), collided with a NW DC-9-10 than had accidently turned on to the active runway in heavy fog/mist conditions. The left wing of the 727 sliced through the fuselage of the DC-9 and set it on fire when the wing contacted the left engine. No injuries occured on the 727, and the only damage was to the left wing. I believe about 15 people died on the DC-9, but several survived this incident. The 727 was repaired and ended up back in service. After the incident DTW made several changes to the taxiway layout and signage to avoid a similar incident.
FLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7476 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2564 times:
The accident you mentionned occured on December 7th 1983 at Madrid Barajas Airport.
The crew of the Aviaco's DC9-32 (EC-CGS) entered the Runway from which an Iberia B727 was taking off (EC-CJF). The two aircraft collided killing all on board the DC9. 51 peoples on board IB's 727 died, out of 93.
BENNETT123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 8587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2521 times:
Thanks for that.
According to Aviation Disasters, ISBN 1 85260 602 9 the B727 was EC-CFJ, which tried to take evasive action.
There was thick fog (Vis 300 M or less) which prevented the AVIACO crew from "obtaining sufficient visual reference in order to determine hat they were not taking the correct route to the beginning og runway 01. The weather was still above the minimum take off requirements however.
Pilot complaints of poor ground control and the absecnce of both marker lights and painted stop signs at taxiway/runway intersections had previously been lodged against Barajas Airport. Plans had actually been made for improvements that should have satisfied most of these concerns, but, tragically, the renovation programme was not to be budgeted until the year after the AVIACO/Iberia disaster".
SonicKidatBWI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2400 times:
PANAM/KLM disaster in Tenerife, Spain in March 1977. Fog (as well as improper communications with the control tower) impaired visibility on the runway. KLM 747 commenced take-off roll without proper clearance and with PANAM 747 still on the active runway.
Drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5318 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2396 times:
Don't forget DL191 the L1011 from FLL-DFW that crashed due to windshear in 85 (i believe). Other windshear related incidents that I remember off the top of my head are a 727 at MSY and a US DC9 at CLT.