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New Color NW 742 @ PHL Today  
User currently offlineMD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 14
Posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6938 times:

I saw it on final approach this morning about 1.5 to 2 hours ago. I'm hoping one of our guys (Wagz or Paul) is out there to photograph her! I'm assuming it's a football charter... Hopefully it's parked at Atlantic Aviation, so someone can get close.. I wish I could get there..  Sad

Go get her, guys.. Big grin


Caution wake turbulence, you are following a heavy jet.
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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6874 times:

Well thats not the eagles charter, because I doubt that they would fly to Dallas the day of the game (tonight, Monday Night Football) but then again I could be wrong.


"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3404 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6838 times:

Eagles charter:

Airline Northwest
Flight Number 9976
Departure City (Airport) Philadelphia, PA (PHL)
Departure Time 11/14/2004 01:30 PM
Arrival City (Airport) Dallas, TX (DFW)
Arrival Time 11/14/2004 03:22 PM
Remaining Flight Time 02:52 (planned)
Aircraft Type Boeing 747-200
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Planned


man, i can't believe i missed it.


User currently offlinePHLapproach From Philippines, joined Mar 2004, 1244 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6783 times:

Well thats not the eagles charter, because I doubt that they would fly to Dallas the day of the game (tonight, Monday Night Football) but then again I could be wrong.

Huh?!?! It's Sunday afternoon.... The football charters always leave a day early. Anyway, It is indeed for the Eagles. As of right now it's at FL280, over Lancaster and it just turned south over the PA, MD border. Of course this is our only heavy for the season and I missed it!

Ry, if you joined Paul's Yahoo group you would know about these kinds of things  Big grin


User currently offlineNeilalp From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1034 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6752 times:

Monday Night Football like you said.

User currently offlineTonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6707 times:

I saw it a PHL today. I wondered what it was doing there. Question: Why do they need a 747 to transport a football team? Are those players THAT heavy they need a HEAVY aircraft?

User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6698 times:

TonyBurr:

NFL teams take close to 60 players, and probably 30 or 40 staff members, both coaching, and other. Factor in that an NFL team travels with enough gear to outfit 10 pop warner teams, and you got yourself a full 747 Smile Teams travel with alot of extra gear. Facemasks, screws for helmets, extra helmets. Both normal road, and alternate jersies. Extra pants, cleats, and socks. Probably enough athletic tape to wrap a mummy, splits. The list could go on and on Smile Teams travel with alot. lol.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7591 posts, RR: 27
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6649 times:

The way the NW NFL charter agreement works.....

For regular season games, the team normally gets a 757-200 or -300, dependent on what aircraft is available.

During the course of the season, they get the option to upgrade 1 game to a 747-200. This is to allow family members to travel to the game. Generally the teams opt for the 742 when they go to farther away destinations, bigger games (like Monday nights), or to warm locations. Teams also get the option of upgraded to a DC-10 for one game also. For the playoffs, they mostly use the DC-10's and 742.


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6612 times:

PSU is right on about this.....I remember 2 seasons ago they used their 742 upgrade to go to SFO to play the 49ers, not sure where they took it last year during the regular season...also saw the Lions use a NW 742 into DEN last year...

Greg



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User currently offlinePHLapproach From Philippines, joined Mar 2004, 1244 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6611 times:

Joe (Wagz) just got back, and he got some shots of it arriving and 9 on 27L departure. The Reg was N638US. Anyone know how many 742's in NC NWA has that are active?

User currently offlineNwaclc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6591 times:

NW 747 fleet as of 14Nov04

16 747-400 (6310 is in SIN for check)

5 747-200 pax a/c still flying

12 747-200 cargo a/c

NWACLC


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7591 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6555 times:

742's in new colors:
624, 627, 637, 638


User currently offlineIslipWN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6516 times:

How many Flight Attendants were there?








Joe


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6491 times:

The BUF Bills use a World MD11 for away games. I got a shot of it loading up a couple weeks ago.




AC was N803DE - the DL MD11 that slid off the runway in DUB.



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User currently offlineNwaclc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6469 times:

9 f/a total pax 226 only 3600lbs of cargo

NWACLC


User currently offlinePHLapproach From Philippines, joined Mar 2004, 1244 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6388 times:

Here's N638US departing 27L at Philly this morning, the flight arrived at DFW a little ago. They got there in 3 hours, not bad. http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/932_N638US_B742_NWA.jpg

User currently offlineMD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6377 times:

Grreat.. With it being such a nice day, I *knew* Joe would be there.. Big grin

Nice job Joe!



Caution wake turbulence, you are following a heavy jet.
User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26499 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6376 times:

>The BUF Bills use a World MD11 for away games. I got a shot of it loading up a couple weeks ago.<

I really hope they sent a VIP configured one, because a charter one would hurt those 6'7" 300 pound lineman



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User currently offlineJetBlast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1231 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6345 times:

Heard about it thanks to Washington-Baltimore Spotters Group, sad I couldn't make it!

JetBlast @ BWI  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



Speedbird Concorde One
User currently offlineMD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5853 times:

Does anyone know where it parked? Was it at AA or did it pull up to one of NW's gates? Joe?


Caution wake turbulence, you are following a heavy jet.
User currently offlineNeilalp From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1034 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5827 times:

I doubt the charters pull to a gate. Probably some open area and the team transfer to a bus.

User currently offlineWagz From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 516 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5606 times:
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Sorry I didn't catch this thread earlier. It parked down by the old overseas terminal as Eagles charters usually do. Sometimes during the playoffs you'll see the local news stations showing footage of the team boarding their plane down there.

Thanks for the compliments on the photo everone. My arrival shots weren't that great, since I didn't get set up right in time. Paul K told me it was coming right when we spotted it turning base to final. Then I just kept an eye on the giant Red tail behind the 26 dirt mound for about 2 hours or so. When it started moving I knew it was time to head down for the departure. I managed to get 9 shots of the thing taking off. I was going nuts, lol.

This was all after I missed the Comair CRJ-700 by 10 seconds as I was getting there this morning.

Joe



I think Big Foot is blurry, Its not the photographers fault. Theres a large out of focus monster roaming the countryside
User currently offlineDL763DFW From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5394 times:

I was working on the ramp when I saw it pull into Terminal E at DFW. It parked at Gate 37 which is a Delta gate, but was parked by NW rampers. DL gate agents worked the gate, however.

It was quite a circus on the ramp because everyone pretty much stopped in their tracks to watch the big plane come up to the gate. If anyone is familiar with Term E at DFW, the NW 742 came in between the Satellite Building (where ASA parks its RJs), and the ASA T-point (where all the carts with different cities marked on them are parked). The wing tips barely cleared the RJs and a light pole near the T-point.

When it got near E37, it stopped, shut off its engines, and NW's rampers hooked a tug up to it and towed it into the gate. It took them about 15 minutes of trying to get it straight because its kind of a tight squeeze (the gate is to the north, a blast wall is to the west, and a field and taxiway are to your south... kind of like the Delta gates at LGA).

Long story short, the plane parked, and I got to watch all the players and family and whomever else was on board walk down the jetway and onto the about 10 buses waiting. Was the highlight of my day, being that it was cold and rainy.

By the way, this is my first post here on Airliners.net, Ive been an avid reader for years now, and finally forked out the dough to join. Look forward to many more posts in the future.


User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7521 posts, RR: 23
Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4563 times:

So the Eagles are now using NW 742s; earlier this year they were flying in on NW 752s. Looks like they upgraded.

Joe,

According to Paul, I must have missed you (& your father) by about 15 minutes. I arrived at Hog Island Road around 2:30 PM near the county line. Paul told me that was one particular Tinicum Township cop that was driving by a couple of times telling everyone (despite being parked on the opposite side of the road with respect to the AOA fence) to leave; he may have even encroached on the Philly end of the road (big jurisdictional NO-NO).

I was parked from 2:30 until 5. I witnessed a couple of aborted landings: one being a US 734 around 3:15, he was still fairly high on approach when the plane started to ascend again. The other was a DL MD-88 (new colors) around 4:30. While approaching 27R, he made a rather odd swerve as if he changing to go for 27L; instead (after he straightened out) the plane wound up ascending. Maybe the pilot was blinded by the setting sun. That's the first time I've witnessed 2 aborted landings on the same day. The DL MD-88 one was also the oddest one I've seen.

Policewise, I didn't see any cop vehicles pass by until about 4. One or 2 Philly cop vehicles (one car, one SUV) drove by; no big deal. Around 5, one Philly cruiser (heading towards Fort Mifflin) slowly drove by followed by 2 Tinicum police cars. The Philly car drove off, the 2 Tinicum cars stopped: one stopped near me and another gentleman in a van, the other vehicle just stopped behind him. The cop in the front car politely asked us to leave. The guy with van told him, "Okay." and the cop thanked him and drove off.

Since it was getting dark, I was planning on leaving anyway so I wasn't in the mood to argue. However, while driving off, I decided to pull over into Fort Mifflin. I got out to see a couple more planes come in, got back in the car to drive off and noticed 2 other vehicles parked at the intersection of Fort Mifflin and Hog Island Road in Philly. A moment later, the same Tinicum cop pulls over and appears to ask them to leave. While he was stopped, I put my car in gear and headed home without incident.

It's too bad I didn't get word of the NW 742 until today (Monday), otherwise I would have told the guy in the van about it. He commented on the lack of 747s in PHL. I told him about the SwissAir 744 that used to come in around 5 PM everyday.

BTW, nice picture Joe.



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User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3404 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4005 times:

A few things. First, the Eagles will not be using a 742 every game. As stated above each NFL team that uses Northwest as their charter is allowed to upgrade from their normal 752/753 to a 742 once a season. Now once the Eagles go into the playoffs they may use a DC10 or 742, but they're likely to have home-field advantage throughout the post season. So it depends what other teams fly into here.

Hopefully we'll all be in for a nice treat if the Eagles finally make it to the Super Bowl and we get a few 747's.

Second, it was a Swiss Air 743 that arrived daily.

Also a shame that British Airways changed it's early flt into PHL to a 772 for the winter instead of the normal 744.

Also let me advise for anyone that doesn't already know, next week will be freighter heaven in PHL. Known as holiday rush week, there is a huge surge of packages sent for the holidays. Thus UPS will bring in several 747's a day, and will hire other cargo companies to help them out. In previous years i've seen in upwards of 10 747's at PHL in one day. Expect Atlas Air, Polar Air Cargo, Southern, Gemini Air Cargo, among others to make appearances at some point during the week.


25 Supa7E7 : The 742 is biiiiig pimpin' to the max!! I am sure the players get a kick out of it. The new colors 742 is a good looking ride...... surely the players
26 Spoke2Spoke : So who gets to sit in First and who has to sit in Coach???
27 USAFHummer : I imagine the coaches have some sort of plan for that...it probably varies from team to team... Greg
28 Post contains images JetBlast : We need some 747s @ BWI.... JetBlast @ BWI
29 Runway27right : Now I don't want to say I told you so, but if you wanted the heads up on the NW 742, you should have belonged to the Yahoo PHL Spotters group. I poste
30 Runway27right : Actually the freighter push at PHL is in mid-December, that's when the big push has always been in my 15 years of spotting. The past couple years has
31 Jetjeanes : Shes a beaut, bit the fuselage looked kinda dingy,It is plain silver on it isnt it....it looked kinda gray
32 Post contains links and images PHLapproach : Anybody know if they will be flying her back? I'm sure her return wouldn't match all these shots with the sky Credit to these shots taken by Paul Kana
33 Usairways85 : The Eagles will fly a 742 back but it will be in the middle of the night. It's possible though that it's still there in the early hours of the morning
34 777gk : I've run a few NFL charters in my day, and usually what you see are the coaches and front-office officials sitting in the first class section and the
35 Dl763dfw : The NW 742 was sitting on the run-up area at the Delta hangar today at DFW. The word at 2030 CST was that the plane would be at E37 around 2200 ready
36 Ua815 : Eagles charter return to PHL: Northwest Flight Number 9977 (NW9977) Departure Airport: Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX Scheduled Time: 12:42 AM, Nov 16 Actual Ti
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