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Weird Gizmo On Seatback In 1969 Ad  
User currently offlineFogCreekCEO From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 23 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 10 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

I found this picture of an old (1969?) ad from Delta Airlines.

http://www.airlinemeals.net/adsfromthepast/images/delta_1969_001.jpg

I guess in 1969 "working girl" didn't have quite the same negative connotations it has today, eh? Big grin

Anyway, my question is: behind each of the passengers, next to their ears, it looks like there's some kind of old-fashioned intercom or something. Each seat has one, they have a little lighted button on them, but I just can't tell what the heck it is and I've never been on a plane that had one off these geegaws at every seat. Some kind of primitive personal entertainment system?

Another question is, does anyone think the width of the aisle in that picture is remotely honest? I think those old ads were actually paintings, not photographs, so it could be bogus.

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User currently offlineLtbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13113 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2560 times:

Perhaps it is an early sound system, that used a speaker rather than earphones. It seems to have a volume knob on it. Maybe it was also a call button for the f/a's, which lit when pushed on to indicate whom had hit their call button. These may have also been showing the First Class seats of the time. What kind of aircraft did Delta have at the time? Could this be a DC-8?

User currently offlineJumboBumbo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

Those JAL pictures on that sight remind me of a store I used to go to in Denver. If you're ever in Denver, go to Pacific Mercantile in Saporro Square - about 17th and Lawrence, maybe (the closest thing Denver has to a Little Japan). Anyway, up on the walls, you'll find a bunch of old JAL posters - they're pretty cool.

BTW... the plane in that picture in the link above looks more like a room than an airplane cabin. Just my 2 cents.


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2449 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
DATABASE EDITOR

Welcome to Airliners, FogCreek!

I agree with JumboBumbo...that looks more like a set than an actual aircraft, given the width of the aisle and the gigantic ceiling.

Unless, of course, Delta offered luxurious passenger flights in these...


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User currently offlineCtbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2415 times:

The aircraft pictured is a DC-8. The wierd things in the seats are actually a reading light (!). When Douglas first designed the DC-8, they designed all the passenger controls to be in the seat itself. The seat, called a "Palamar" contained air vents, a reading light, emergency oxygen masks, call button, etc. On United aircraft, that corner was for the IFE system.

Charles, SJ



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2402 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
DATABASE EDITOR

Wow, Ct....you're good.


2H4



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User currently offlineFogCreekCEO From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2184 times:

Cool!

And it looks real comfortable as a pillow if you nod off to sleep ... not!

Thanks for the info.


User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4260 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2109 times:

There is no way that is a real aircraft pictured in the ad. No aircraft has 5ft wide aisles!



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User currently offlineJHSfan From Denmark, joined Apr 2004, 469 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

Ctbarnes:
You hit the a-key one time too much, when writing the name of the seat - it's a Palomar seat, not Palamar.

The seat is visible from behind on this picture from 1976:

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A couple of old Palomar seats:

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User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4972 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 4 days ago) and read 1823 times:

No, that is a real DC-8 First Class cabin. If you put the aisle in perspective with the flight attendant, it is only about 8 inches on either side of her ... and, flight attendants were narrower in those days Smile

One thing to notice, other than the cool Palomar seats, (boy, THAT brings back memories), is look at the wall between First Class and Economy. Quite a change from today's curtains, or even worse, on American carriers ... nothing!



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User currently offlinePart103 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 20 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 4 days ago) and read 1782 times:

Weird seeing that photo posted again so recently. It was posted on http://queenofsky.journalspace.com/ just the other day. You might take a look at this. A very interesting situation developing on this former F/A's blog.

User currently offlineFogCreekCEO From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1695 times:

Yep, that's where I found the picture.

It's a nice looking cabin but as I remember the DC-8 was really quite uncomfortable.


User currently offlineMilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1997 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1654 times:

UA's DC-8's had the reading light in the seat back just like Delta, until they redid the interiors, put the lights above, and installed the audio controls and plug in for the head sit where the reading light is in the picture. The DC-8, was very comfortable in coach, 36 inches of pitch with foot rests.

User currently offlineAntonovman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 720 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1568 times:

That F/A looks like Doris Day  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17038 posts, RR: 66
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1553 times:

that looks more like a set than an actual aircraft, given the width of the aisle and the gigantic ceiling.


It's a first class aisle, so the width is not surprising. Also, the bins used to be much smaller. Hard as it may be to remember in these days of 32" pitch and Cryingair, flying was different in those days.



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