DIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 30 Posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6629 times:
Okay, you have to read my points before you answer.
The Delta a/c in the lower left is a ______? I know, you're thinking, "That's easy, a DC-8." But wait! It doesn't exactly look like a DC-8, I posted another DL DC-8 at the closest angle possible so that you can compare. It isn't a Convair, because it doesn't have the distinctive black nose cone. To me, it sorta looks like a 707, but did DL operate a one-off, or something like that. . .I am unaware of such an event.
Points:
1. It looks like a Boeing nose.
2. The silver belly ends to far short of the nose (where a DL DC-8 silver belly would be normally).
3. The emergency door behind the cockpit is to close to the glass to be a DC-8.
Mikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 56 Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6515 times:
MakeMinesLax From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 520 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6428 times:
I'd agree, the nose does look a little unusual, but it's no doubt a DC-8. I don't "get" points 2 and 3, but obviously some work was done to add the forward cargo door.
Mikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 56 Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6426 times:
Trent,
He's talking about the Flying Tigers DC-8 picture. But the aircraft in
question is the Delta DCBoeing-720880 ( ) stored? in the background.
MakeMinesLax From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 520 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6396 times:
[Sorry - ignore this; I was referring to the Flying Tigers aircraft (also in my prior post). The nose does look a little atypical on *that* one, however]
Trent900 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 419 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6323 times:
Looking at the picture more closely it is a DC-8. The air inlets are just visible at the nose. I think the larger fin is due to the blurred background as the camera's focused the the landing tiger.
Jmsintexas From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 30 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6279 times:
I think it is a DC-8. I don't believe it is a Convair. Besides the fact that they were no longer in the DL fleet by 1980, if you look at the pic below, you will see that the DL Convairs had much more black paint on the nose than the DC-8s do. The nose of the plane in the Flying Tigers photograph is painted like a DC-8.
MakeMinesLax From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 520 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6270 times:
My apologies for not reading carefully - I get it now. Look at these for comparison:
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6231 times:
A/C in the lower left hand of your top photo looks like a Boeing 720 I'd bet. Maybe some differences in paint scheme, but cockpit windshields, wing, engines, tail - they all say Boeing 720.
MakeMinesLax From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 520 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6210 times:
About the silver and the nose - Delta picked up a few birds from Pan Am, so possibly a minimal repainting was performed in some cases.
DIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 30 Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6144 times:
"Rest assured that they are DC8s. Look at the eyebrow windows. Standard Douglas Eyebrows. The engines are JT3Ds."
The JT3Ds were not unique to only the DC-8. The 720 also had these engines. But, I agree on a different point, noting that the a/c in question looks as though it is equipped with JT3Ds.
Ding! You are now free to keep supporting Frontier.
25 Efohdee: Aircraft is a DC-8. Look at the air inlets under the nose, a classic feature of all DC-8s.
26 DIA: "The ventral fin of a 720 has a radio antenna. VERY distinctive feature - this is how I learned at an early age to distinguish a DC-8 from a 707/720."
27 ILSApproach: From a guy who is old enough to remember DC8's when they still flew for alot of regularly scheduled airlines........................they ARE DC8's!! L
28 Dalmd88: Can't be a 707 or 720. We never operated them. Convairs were long gone by 1980 so it must be a DC-8.
29 Lymanm: ****NOTE**** Just to clarify - the mystery aircraft is NOT the central aircraft in the photo. The poster is refering to blurry aircraft in the BOTTOM
30 SATL382G: This is an amusing thread. Starting with the less than precise first message... He's talking about the aircraft in the lower left background of the fl
31 Olympus69: I agree that the Delta jet must be a DC-8, but some of the so-called recognition features are weird. "The ventral fin....has a radio antenna" Absolute
32 Access-Air: The Delta DC8-51 in the lower left hand corner is a Delta DC8-51.... I think we have been seeing too many twin jets to know the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!
33 SATL382G: Why is everyone having so much trouble??? Because the original message was poorly worded and has folks looking at the wrong aircraft....
34 Vanguard737: IS THIS POST A JOKE!!?? PLEASE tell me you people are not seriously debating what type of aircraft this is! IT IS A FREAKIN' DC8 PURE AND SIMPLE! I me
35 SATL382G: Vanguard737, Read all the posts before making attacks......
36 57AZ: It is definately something of the DC-8 series. Delta never had the 707 or 720, they flew the DC-8s and 9s. As a previous post mentioned, all of the Co
37 Vimanav: It's a early 707 or 720. Most likely a 720. Question is, assuming the date on the photo is correct, what is a 720 doing in a Delta scheme in 1980? Mov
38 Godspeed: I worked for a fueling company directly behind that shot,and access to the ramp took you right by Delta's hangar,its definitely a DC-8,trust me,as i w
39 C-GRYK: The Delta jet in the BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER is definitely a Delta DC-8, there is no question, just look at the thing, it's a DC-8, not a 707 or Conva
40 ANCFlyer: Damn Vanguard737, go take some Ritalin or something! Everyone's entitled to an opinion!
41 SATL382G: I cropped it down and enlarged it a bit. If someone has a site than can host I'll send it to ya to post.
42 B741: Vanguard737 summed it up correctly. Any veteran spotter can easily identify it as a DC-8. A novice youngster might not, however.
43 DIA: "Because the original message was poorly worded and has folks looking at the wrong aircraft...." In no way did I intend for the original post to be "p
44 Jetjeanes: Delta had two different models of the 8. All the cvr 880,s were retired by that...Dl had the strectched 8 as well
45 M404: Now, more to the point, can anyone verify the c/s differance? A PanAm or even a UA acft quickly painted to DL would explain it, possibly a lease. Befo
46 SATL382G: DIA, A good mystery you found for us to solve! Thanks!
47 Isitsafenow: Notice the air intakes under the cockpit. Thats means its a DC 8, pure and simple.That is a major characteristic of the eight. The 880's were a smalle
48 M404: I'd also have to say that it's a DC8-51 in the same c/s as the second photo. I blew the 2nd shot up and compared it after making the first smaller. Pe
49 Jetjeanes: I noticed on the cvr 880 by bob gerad there is a long fairing on top of the 880 what was that ive never seen that
50 OttoPylit: DING, DING, DING, DING!!!!! And CALPilot wins the prize, its a 720. Delta has dismissed of its 880's by 1980, and the fuselage is too thick to be a DC
51 Isitsafenow: Hate to bust your bubble but I just went through Proctors "Boeing 720" and DL never owned or leased a 720. Its a diesel eight, dude. I also went throu
52 OttoPylit: I believe that Delta did indeed own a few 720's, but I am not absolutely sure about it. I wouldn't rely all my trust on one book either, but anyway. A
53 Godspeed: Duhhhhhh!!!!! , OttoPylit, wake up and smell the coffee, no 720's, no 990's either, worked there, only different things there were L-100 Hercules. and
54 Isitsafenow: GODSPEED....thankyouverymuch....I forgot about their L-100's for cargo. I believe he(OTTOPyLOT) is aware of the past DL fleet. He's just funnin' us a
55 OttoPylit: Geesh Godspeed, can't you tell insincere sincerity when you read it? Actually, I was just throwing wild guesses out there off the top of my head about
56 Jetjeanes: I believe it is a dc8 as well but i did some research and there was a western 720 and a convair 990 from north east,,,unless the dates are way off on
57 Flaps: Im no novice at spotting, operating, servicing, etc. At first I was convinced this was a 720. After looking at the photo five times under different ma
58 Isitsafenow: Thanks Flaps.....point for knowledge. Northeast operated a few Convair 880's and ONE Convair 990. The 990 was on a short term lease, less then one yea
59 DIA: "...and AA was, with the above stated exception, the lone USA airline that flew the 990." Nope. A^A &.....(most notably) Modern Air, Denver Ports of C
60 AZjetgeek: The DL in question at the beginning of this thread is a DC-8. The inlets give it away. Also, the windscreen on the DC-8 is clearly different than the
61 Isitsafenow: DIA..Thx for the comeback..The key word was airline. I was aware about Denver ports of Call and Modern. I was sure Alaska flew the 880 version, not th
62 Jetjeanes: When you blow up the tail pic, you can see a white line in it where the word fanjets were written
63 Henpol747: Com ´on guys, it´s DEFINITEVELY a DC-8!!!!!
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