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Heads Of State And Their Aircraft  
User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4314 posts, RR: 11
Posted (10 years 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 11979 times:

With the recent surge in 'major' foreign visits to our country, I was wondering about the types of aircraft used by certain dignitaries.

For example, what kind of plane did the Kings of Spain use when traveling to Rosario?

What kind of plane do the sons of Princess Diana travel in, how did Prince Harry arrive to Buenos Aires? As has been the case with the Dutch royals for example, they travel in civilian aircraft when the trip is solely for pleasure.

Which type of aircraft is used by the South Korean president?

When the Israeli Head of State comes, what aircraft does he travel in and is it escorted in any way?

Do the Prime Ministers and European royals use the same or different aircraft on foreign visits? Are they military or civilian? I know these are a lot of questions but I'd appreciate some info. I have seen the Chinese president's plane as well as those of several Latin American countries who have recently visited Argentina. There are also a couple of US military aircraft at MDZ as we speak, including a military 747 and a 'C5 Galaxy' which are supposedly of the largest transport planes in the United States military.






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User currently offlineRB211-524H From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 11930 times:

The Prime Minister of Australia flies around the world in a Boeing Business Jet -

Up until a couple of years ago, he flew on a 707 but I guess in this day and age of curtailing Government waste, they bought a couple of BBJs to fly Australian government VIPs around. My taxes paid for this of course. I think a few years ago, there was talk of the RAAF acquiring 767s as VIP jets but this was seen as too excessive for the PM of 20 million people? Who out there knows what really happened here?


User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1875 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 11918 times:

Based on the distance, the French President uses an A319 or a Falcon900 operated by the French Air Force.
In the past, preesidents were using the Concorde

Teva



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User currently offlineLegendDC9 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11773 times:

Israeli Prime minister uses an Israeli Air Force B707 for his travels

User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11729 times:

The South African president uses a BBJ.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11695 times:


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Indian PM 'normally' uses the IAF B732 during Domestic Visits & Few International ones.On International Visits its normally a Interior Temp Modified/converted AI B747.
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MEL

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User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11690 times:

There are several interesting presidential aircraft for Mexico:

Largest one:

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User currently offlineMinmiester From Australia, joined May 2001, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11603 times:

RB211-524H:

The PM of Australia is not actually our head of state  Big grin, that title belongs to the Queen of England (also the Queen of Scotland, Wales, head of state of Canada. The role of the head of state is of course played by our GG Michael Jeffrey (sp?), and I believe he rarely gets a ride in the BBJs and Challenger, he flies dear QF a fair bit though.

There was a fair bit of debate about whether the BBJs were actually needed, but there are times where a bit of discretion is required at government level for those who we deem to be important to slip in and out of cities/countries with as little fanfare and public knowledge as possible.

Cheers

MinMiester


User currently offlineYhmfan From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 607 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11580 times:

Here is the Canadian Prime Minister's:


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User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1883 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days ago) and read 11574 times:

This VIP 747SP does Amri flights from the UAE

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Former South African president Nelson Mandela regularly uses an SAAF Falcon 500 for some of his flights. Can't find a pic of it in the database but I'll keep looking.

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User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26718 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days ago) and read 11548 times:

>Up until a couple of years ago, he flew on a 707 but I guess in this day and age of curtailing Government waste, they bought a couple of BBJs to fly Australian government VIPs around. My taxes paid for this of course. I think a few years ago, there was talk of the RAAF acquiring 767s as VIP jets but this was seen as too excessive for the PM of 20 million people? Who out there knows what really happened here?<

I think you got a good deal for your tax dollars. A BBJ is a decent size for a government official, uses much, much, much less fuel than a 707, flies with fewer crew and does not cost nearly as much as a 767, 747, etc.

>In the past, preesidents were using the Concorde<

France's situation was similar to what Tony Blair did a few years ago when he had a meeting with President Clinton. He chartered the Concorde for a trip that needed to be quick. I believe the President of France flew on the Air Force DC-8s and various other planes before they bought the Falcons and ACJs (Which flew Yasser Arafat's body to Egypt)



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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2245 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days ago) and read 11529 times:

As our country, the presidential and governmental fleet's history to date has been rather colorful.

As Yugoslavia and under President Tito, the state had two Boeing 727-2L8 Adv's.


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User currently offlineSfo212 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days ago) and read 11514 times:

The Philippine president came through SFO on her way to the conference in Chile. She came on Philippine Airlines to SFO then transferred to a Primaris 757, which was going on to Las Vegas before heading on to her destination in Chile.

User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days ago) and read 11504 times:

Here you have the fleet of our President.
The A319CJ is in MAD at the moment.

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User currently offlineMarambio From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2004, 1160 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 11502 times:

For example, what kind of plane did the Kings of Spain use when traveling to Rosario?

I read they flew MAD-ROS nonstop on an A310. I don't know if it was a civilian or military aircraft.

When the Israeli Head of State comes, what aircraft does he travel in and is it escorted in any way?

Israeli PMs always use El Al planes. The IAF has a 707, which I doubt is used for official visits.

Saludos,
Marambio



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12289 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 11464 times:
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In New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark uses the Royal New Zealand Air Force's B757s and Beech King Air. She sometimes also uses the Air Force helicopters and the Hercules.

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User currently offlineZonky From New Zealand, joined Nov 2004, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11410 times:

Blair tends to use a chartered BA 777 on foreign trips. At one time they were looking at aquiring an airbus jet for VIP travel, but was felt to be too controversial to sell to the public.



User currently offlineDstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11398 times:

Ireland has a Ministerial Transport air component of the Air Corps, mainly tasked with bringing people to and from EU meetings, especially those held in less than convenient locations.

As an island state with relatively few direct links, well at least in times of convenience of service to do out and back in one day, it is heavily tasked and serves the President, Prime Minister and Government.

Current aircraft are an elderly Gulfstream IV "251" and a Learjet 45 "258" - the latter delivered about this time last year. A Beech King Air "240" which was replaced by the Lear, is still in service but rarely does other than back-up duty on Irish flights.

The GIV is the second Gulfstram used and before that there were Ba125's - only one at a time then.


User currently offlineMaddy From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11378 times:

The German politicians use an A310:


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User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26718 posts, RR: 75
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11345 times:

>Blair tends to use a chartered BA 777 on foreign trips. At one time they were looking at aquiring an airbus jet for VIP travel, but was felt to be too controversial to sell to the public.<

Well, the queen flies BA, so Blair should not get anything else  Smile. I even saw her flying a BAe 146. Must be an AV nut  Big thumbs up.

>The German politicians use an A310<

So does the military for their large troop transport. 1 guess as to what they used before getting the A310s  Big grin




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User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11332 times:

Britain has the Royal Flight for the PM and Royals. Sometimes they fly ministers as well.

They fly the BAe 146 and 125, and anything else is covered by chartering BA aircraft (either the 777 or A319 on occasion). The TriStars and VC-10 aircraft don't do this role any more.

The VC-10s left VIP service a while ago and just do trooping or tankering nowadays. Margaret Thatcher used to eulogise them as she loved the VC-10 in VIP configuration.


User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26718 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11327 times:

>They fly the BAe 146 and 125, and anything else is covered by chartering BA aircraft (either the 777 or A319 on occasion). The TriStars and VC-10 aircraft don't do this role any more.<

I actually saw them sticking HRH in a regular BA 146 on Airport one time, was interesting.



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User currently offlineCrazyboi From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11303 times:

The Japanese heads of state fly a lovely 744 with a red stripe down the fuselage and the emblamatic red circle on the tail.


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User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11295 times:

I actually saw them sticking HRH in a regular BA 146 on Airport one time, was interesting.

The Queen was another who opposed the purchase of a VIP Airbus. She didn't like the idea of how much it would cost.

Her eldest son used to enjoy flying the 146 himself until he did £1 million worth of damage to one of them. Now he gets told to sit quietly in the back.


User currently offlineSk945 From Sweden, joined May 2002, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11286 times:

In Sweden the royal family, PM and others from the goverment use the following planes. For longer trips they often fly with SAS


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25 Argento : The Kings of Spain arrived at Rosario on a A310 of the Spain air force. The President of China on a Air China 747-400 (I think it was chartered for th
26 HOONS90 : The South Korean President uses his 737-300 for short haul, and charters either Korean Air's 744 (HL7402 mostly), or Asiana's 744 (HL7428 mostly) for
27 Post contains images Techrep : Derico , I know the President of your country flies T01 because I helped C Checked that aircraft in San Antonio. That aircraft has a set of “air st
28 Post contains links and images Av757 : The Colombian President uses: Fokker F28 Fellowship 1000, reg FAC0001 View Large View MediumPhoto © Juan David Cardona A. Boeing 707-373C, reg FA
29 Post contains images European : The UK has a BaE 146 in a red scheme - Though i do not know who flies it! It has just had a new livery 1st photo = New 2nd Photo = old European
30 KITH : The US uses a modified 747-200. I remember Blair used the Concorde a few times? And we thought our 747 was impressive!-Matt in KITH
31 Post contains links and images KEno : BBJ for Malaysian King & Prime Minister : View Large View MediumPhoto © M Radzi Desa
32 LX23 : Unfortunately, T-01 will be out of service for a while, as one of the turbines failed on takeoff from Aeroparque last month. I do love how the Argenti
33 Techrep : Unfortunately, T-01 will be out of service for a while, as one of the turbines failed on takeoff from Aeroparque last month. Give me 3 guys and a moto
34 Derico : Wow, that's a lot more info than I expected. Thank you all. Techrep, LX23, etc: Yes, it's true about the T01, the subject of much speculation. It's be
35 TACAA320 : Thanks God our President will not be there. Otherwise he will probably must fly a Cessna [the only aircraft that belongs to the Costa Rican Air Force]
36 Post contains images FriendlySkies : I was starting to wonder why nobody had posted the VC-25 lol...seems kind of obvious (maybe that's why!). And I also agree with you JetBlast.
37 Andz : I actually saw them sticking HRH in a regular BA 146 on Airport one time, was interesting. Which HRH would that be? The Queen isn't HRH anything so I
38 HaveBlue : Derico, The Lockheed C-5 Galaxy is the largest plane outside of Russia. 247' long and 800,000lbs. The 747 is just slightly smaller. The Antonov An-124
39 LX23 : Techrep: RR techs in EZE have declared both of T-01s turbines as "inoperable", and the Argentine gov't is apparently going to "rent" 2 spares (probabl
40 Post contains images BuyantUkhaa : And of course there is the Dutch governmental/royal Fokker 70 PH-KBX. And previously F28 PH-PBX when Queen (Koningin) Beatrix was still a Princess.
41 Post contains links and images Flyboy36y : The Presisent of the US also travels in Marine Helicopters and in a USAF 757. View Large View MediumPhoto © Gerhard Plomitzer View Large View Med
42 N1120a : >The US uses a modified 747-200. I remember Blair used the Concorde a few times? And we thought our 747 was impressive!-Matt in KITH
43 Post contains images KEno : Sultan of Brunei often flew his 744 all by himself :-
44 EZEIZA : Hi to everyone, regading the Tango 01, anyone know what aircraft will the Argentine govt. lease until T01 is able to fly again?
45 HaveBlue : N1120a, the 'doomsday' plane you refer to is the E-4B, a 747-200, and there are 4 of them. And are you saying there is 2 747's with aerial refueling c
46 N1120a : >Which HRH would that be? The Queen isn't HRH anything so I guess you weren't talking about her.And are you saying there is 2 747's with aerial refuel
47 Post contains links and images KEno : Global Express for Malaysian King & Prime Minister :- View Large View MediumPhoto © TK
48 Post contains links and images Arkhem : For some reason I thought the Sultan sold this stylish a/c with many of those A340s... View Large View MediumPhoto © Frank Unterspann Good to see
49 JGPH1A : Re: "The Queen is not Her Royal Highness Queen Elizabeth II? " No - the Queen is "Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II". Royal Princes and Princesses (e.g.
50 DETA737 : During her last visit for the celebration of her Golden Jubilee, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II and HRH the Duke of Edinburgh were flown from London t
51 LX23 : EZEIZA: The Argentine government is currently using AR's executive 732. They will also once or twice probably charter on of AR's A342s, as they were s
52 JeffDCA : I heard that the A330 "blairforce one" is still very much on the cards. It was a couple of months ago so i'm not sure if this has changed, being out o
53 Levent : "Thanks God our President will not be there. Otherwise he will probably must fly a Cessna." --- Wouldn´t that be wonderful? All the hotshots with the
54 Zonky : "They were flown around Canada in this aircraft as well and flown back to Heathrow on it. I'd like to know if any other Commonwealth realms provide VI
55 Post contains images JGPH1A : Re: i seem to recall she and phillip had all of first class (with some seats removed? I think NZ actually installed a VIP suite with a bed and everyth
56 Zonky : "would they have made her clear US Immigration on a TWOV ?" I had visions of her stranded by the pepsi drinks dispenser in that god-awful transit loun
57 JGPH1A : ... which raises an interesting point - does the Queen have a passport ? "My Secretary of State requests and requires, in My Name, all those whom it m
58 Post contains links and images Airsicknessbag : A little more on our German bosses: When they fly long-range or with a big entourage, there are two A310s with VIP outfit. View Large View MediumPhoto
59 Bogota : The Colombian presidency will be recieving a Boeing Business Jet around April 2005 to replace the F28 and the 707 described by AV757. The plane has al
60 Post contains images JetBlast : BTW, any photos of the doomsday planes? I've always wondered what they looked like. JetBlast @ BWI
61 Post contains images HaveBlue :
62 Bogota : I have a question, how many planes travel usually with Mr. Bush when he goes on an official visit somewhere? Today Mr. Bush is in CTG (Cartagena, Colo
63 L410Turbolet : I like the way the Pope travels. Inbound by Alitalia charter, outbound by a charter of a flag carrier of the country he visits.
64 Post contains images Sfo212 : The South Korean leader flew on a Korean Air 747-400. It arrived in Honolulu last night after a nonstop flight from Santiago. Quite a routing, I wonde
65 Post contains links Jasepl : ...which raises an interesting point - does the Queen have a passport? JGPH1A, no head of state has a passport whilst they're in office. For HM, of co
66 Post contains images KEno : Regarding the recent APEC summit held in Santiago, Chile, do you know the flight routings taken by other Asian leaders? Chile is quite a distance from
67 ANCFlyer : Bogota: "I have a question, how many planes travel usually with Mr. Bush when he goes on an official visit somewhere? Today Mr. Bush is in CTG (Cartag
68 CometII : What's the low-down on the former presidential plane, the one before the current Air Force One? If my memory serves me, after the Reagan administratio
69 Post contains links Vzlet : Where is it now? It's not in any museum that's for sure. By next year: http://www.reaganfoundation.com/airforceone/airforceone.asp
70 Post contains links and images TW741 : The Austrian President as well as the Federal Chancellor (as head of the government) can either use View Large View MediumPhoto © Balazs Pinter o
71 Post contains images NWADC9 : The President of Antarctica flys in a wooden crate on a C-130 from Chile and off to the zoo!
72 Derico : In an update of the T01 situation, they are getting engines on rent to the plane so it can fly over to Tel Aviv for C-check. Rgds. (ps- Why can't thes
73 Post contains links and images MissedApproach : The Canadian PM also has access to several Challenger 604's. When he uses the A310 it's either for international trips or because he's got the press
74 Derico : Well I can't edit my post above, what I forgot to add in my comment is that if the inability to perform inspections locally, as those needed by the T0
75 LVZXV : Hola Derico: Primero, excellent thread! IAI has been maintaining Argentine Boeings/McDDs since the late-'80s. All of AR's original B737-287s and some
76 Post contains images Arcano : The President of the Republic of Chile flies on a 737-500 of the Fuerza Aerea de Chile (FACH) modified for more range As for the APEC summit in Chile,
77 Hailstone : missed out on the singaporean reps - they usually fly SQ, commercial and scheduled - just hat LHL on SQ25 FRA SIN on tuesday.
78 777ER : I think I watched at news the New Zealand PM arriving in a 737... Am I wrong? NZ's PM arrived on the RNZAF B752.
79 Bill142 : but I guess in this day and age of curtailing Government waste, they bought a couple of BBJs to fly Australian government VIPs around. My taxes paid
80 Post contains images Mozart : Not sure whether this is still a case, but the government representatives of Luxembourg usually get a lift from the Germans, French or Belgians when g
81 LVTMB : Very interesting thread indeed! LVZXV: Which of the F28s you mentioned use to be T-01 ("Patagonia") back in the early 70s? Was that the current T-03 o
82 Lamedianaranja : The Pope flies Alitalia to his destination and the local airline on going home. Viasa had the honor in 1995 of first showing him round Venezuela in th
83 GDB : It is true that the RAF are now not generally tasked for VIP, except for the dedicated BAe-146/BAe-125 of 32 Sqn. Except when extra security is needed
84 Post contains links and images SXFAN : Now let's see what we have! After the deadly incident in Romania the falcon is for sale (or for scrap) The current fleet of VIP aircrafts for the Gree
85 Atltraveler : The Indian Government had proposed ordering a couple of BBJ's for the PM and VIP's. Anyone know the status of those orders or if they have been delive
86 Post contains links and images LVZXV : LVTMB: The Argentine Air Force acquired a total of 8 F28s from 1970-98: 2 x F28-1000 (VIP) 5 x F28-1000C (LADE) - 1 w/o 16/08/89 @ BRC. 1 x F28-4000 (
87 57AZ : In addition to the two VC-25s, the 89th Military Airlift Wing also operates C-21s and the VC-32s. All of these aircraft can be used for presidential o
88 CometII : Thank you Vzlet for the link. Considering that Nixon, Ford, and Carter also utilized that aircraft, certainly some agreement must have been reached to
89 QANTASFOREVER : RB211-524H I think a few years ago, there was talk of the RAAF acquiring 767s as VIP jets but this was seen as too excessive for the PM of 20 million
90 Post contains links and images AlitaliaMD11 : Hey I know the Spanish government uses a A310, and a 707 as well as another aircraft which I cant identify, I think its a falcon 900??? View Large Vie
91 JGPH1A : On Spanish AF aircraft, what is the significance of the black "X" on a white background, on the tail ?
92 Post contains links and images LifelinerOne : The Netherlands has it's own VIP-plane and it has always been a Fokker. First there was the F27, then the F28 and now a F70. View Large View MediumPho
93 Post contains images Solnabo : THE best looking a/c is King Of Jordan´s A 340-200! Black-greyish/gold and beige undercarrige!!! Awesome IMHO Micke
94 Derico : Que tal XV! As usual with you, a superbly informative message, even flirting on the esoteric (which is great). You mentioned 'the Powers that be' seem
95 FCKC : -Read 757 T-01 of Argentina will be sold .China is supposed to be interested in. -India is still evaluating 737 BBJ and A319CJ , same for Turkey. -737
96 Post contains images LVZXV : Derico: Your kind words are much appreciated. I still remember the one and only time I toured the AEP maintenance ramp, in 1996, one fine summer morni
97 FCKC : LV-ZXV I sincerely hope you are wright , and that funds can be found so that T-01 comes back to Argentina , as it is really a smart looking machine in
98 Post contains links and images Horus : The Egyptian Government have quite a few jets at their disposal: The Flagship A340 A large fleet of GulfStream jets including View Large View MediumPh
99 Arifu Gobakuwi : Burkina's government had been making of use boeing 727-100, this one also with a boeing 707, and of a few smaller aircraft. As normal in Africa, some
100 Post contains links and images Regis : Brazil's president embarasses the country abroad flying this junk: View Large View MediumPhoto © Gustavo Kaufmann Soon to be replaced by this bea
101 Derico : XV, I was wondering why it was so expensive for K to travel to this meeting (was it to Costa Rica?). Now I know why!! They are not selling the T01, it
102 Unicorn : "The Prime Minister of Australia flies around the world in a Boeing Business Jet - Up until a couple of years ago, he flew on a 707 but I guess in thi
103 Post contains links and images Superfly : When will Fidel Castro get the IL-96? View Large View MediumPhoto © Colin K. Work - AirTeamImages
104 Post contains images A350 : The Egyptian Government have quite a few jets at their disposal: The Flagship A340, A large fleet of GulfStream jets including ... Horus, please don't
105 Post contains links LVZXV : I actually did think that his now *famous* posturings were OK back in early 2003 to kick the people's butts, because I really think that Argentines ne
106 Marambio : As for LV-MLR, she has suddenly found herself as the mainstay of the 747 fleet; one day Costa Rica, then the following week, 2 trips to Ushuaia, which
107 LVZXV : Hola Marambio: An all-Business B742: QUE LUJO!!! I like the idea of AR sending the 742 down to USH, but isn't AR's long-haul fleet a bit overstretched
108 Derico : Hola a todos, The 747 MLR to USH got me thinking... Can AEP handle 747s?? I think not, right?[Edited 2004-12-01 03:39:46]
109 LY744 : "Israeli PMs always use El Al planes. The IAF has a 707, which I doubt is used for official visits." That is incorrect. The IDF/AF has a single VIP co
110 LVZXV : Hola Derico: The 747 MLR to USH got me thinking... Can AEP handle 747s?? I think not, right? Technically, yes, but with a light load and even then the
111 Post contains links and images Airplanepics : The president of Kuwait sometimes uses the upper deck of this 744: View Large View MediumPhoto © Simon Nicholls The Bahranian Royal Flight: View
112 CometII : Airplanepics, Do you know what aircraft did Iraq's government have during the Saddam Hussein period? Since he didn't travel much in the 90s, very litt
113 Post contains links and images FLYSSC : The French Général De Gaulle was a big fan of the "Caravelle" and was always using it for his official visits abroad View Large View MediumPhoto &co
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