Derico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4369 posts, RR: 10 Posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 13637 times:
With the recent surge in 'major' foreign visits to our country, I was wondering about the types of aircraft used by certain dignitaries.
For example, what kind of plane did the Kings of Spain use when traveling to Rosario?
What kind of plane do the sons of Princess Diana travel in, how did Prince Harry arrive to Buenos Aires? As has been the case with the Dutch royals for example, they travel in civilian aircraft when the trip is solely for pleasure.
Which type of aircraft is used by the South Korean president?
When the Israeli Head of State comes, what aircraft does he travel in and is it escorted in any way?
Do the Prime Ministers and European royals use the same or different aircraft on foreign visits? Are they military or civilian? I know these are a lot of questions but I'd appreciate some info. I have seen the Chinese president's plane as well as those of several Latin American countries who have recently visited Argentina. There are also a couple of US military aircraft at MDZ as we speak, including a military 747 and a 'C5 Galaxy' which are supposedly of the largest transport planes in the United States military.
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RB211-524H From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 13588 times:
The Prime Minister of Australia flies around the world in a Boeing Business Jet -
Up until a couple of years ago, he flew on a 707 but I guess in this day and age of curtailing Government waste, they bought a couple of BBJs to fly Australian government VIPs around. My taxes paid for this of course. I think a few years ago, there was talk of the RAAF acquiring 767s as VIP jets but this was seen as too excessive for the PM of 20 million people? Who out there knows what really happened here?
Minmiester From Australia, joined May 2001, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 13261 times:
The PM of Australia is not actually our head of state , that title belongs to the Queen of England (also the Queen of Scotland, Wales, head of state of Canada. The role of the head of state is of course played by our GG Michael Jeffrey (sp?), and I believe he rarely gets a ride in the BBJs and Challenger, he flies dear QF a fair bit though.
There was a fair bit of debate about whether the BBJs were actually needed, but there are times where a bit of discretion is required at government level for those who we deem to be important to slip in and out of cities/countries with as little fanfare and public knowledge as possible.
N1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 29196 posts, RR: 73
Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 13206 times:
>Up until a couple of years ago, he flew on a 707 but I guess in this day and age of curtailing Government waste, they bought a couple of BBJs to fly Australian government VIPs around. My taxes paid for this of course. I think a few years ago, there was talk of the RAAF acquiring 767s as VIP jets but this was seen as too excessive for the PM of 20 million people? Who out there knows what really happened here?<
I think you got a good deal for your tax dollars. A BBJ is a decent size for a government official, uses much, much, much less fuel than a 707, flies with fewer crew and does not cost nearly as much as a 767, 747, etc.
>In the past, preesidents were using the Concorde<
France's situation was similar to what Tony Blair did a few years ago when he had a meeting with President Clinton. He chartered the Concorde for a trip that needed to be quick. I believe the President of France flew on the Air Force DC-8s and various other planes before they bought the Falcons and ACJs (Which flew Yasser Arafat's body to Egypt)
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Sfo212 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 13172 times:
The Philippine president came through SFO on her way to the conference in Chile. She came on Philippine Airlines to SFO then transferred to a Primaris 757, which was going on to Las Vegas before heading on to her destination in Chile.
Dstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1600 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 13056 times:
Ireland has a Ministerial Transport air component of the Air Corps, mainly tasked with bringing people to and from EU meetings, especially those held in less than convenient locations.
As an island state with relatively few direct links, well at least in times of convenience of service to do out and back in one day, it is heavily tasked and serves the President, Prime Minister and Government.
Current aircraft are an elderly Gulfstream IV "251" and a Learjet 45 "258" - the latter delivered about this time last year. A Beech King Air "240" which was replaced by the Lear, is still in service but rarely does other than back-up duty on Irish flights.
The GIV is the second Gulfstram used and before that there were Ba125's - only one at a time then.