Capital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 47 Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2910 times:
Well it's bye, bye, Baby at MAN if easyJet do start all those services listed by RJ100.
MAN-NCL, what an amazingly short flight that would be!
I agree that MAN could really benefit from a low-cost service between MAN and STN to give access to the vast low-cost network there, though a STN link may fit better into FR's plans given their larger presence there.
Whitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2903 times:
NCL-MAN would just be a positioning flight which is upgraded to sell seats, like the old LPL-LTN service.
Sold for buttons as the aircraft was doing that route anyway.
BestWestern, MAN now has Air Berlin and Jet2 with reasonable service levels (Jet2 is already posting notices for increased flying, their latest is to take on BA on MAN-LGW). Easyjet is going to find problems with MAN when it comes to gate availability, as there is only a limited amount of suitable space. Pier B on T1 is the ideal location for lowcosts as the inner bays are 737/319 capable and don't require an airbridge to be attached.
Manchester to Newcastle might appeal to those who haven't got time to ride the rails or sit on the high level car park we call the M62, but it will be a tough route for a genuine service. If it's a positioning flight for NCL based crews then that's a scheduling issue, but I would have expected Easyjet to run the proposed MAN flights as an extension of the LPL operation (at first anyway).
BMIBaby is still hammering away with advertising in the MAN catchment area, which is one plus in their favour. But then again so are Easyjet (for LPL) and Jet2....and Easyjet is a MUCH more high-profile brand.
Whitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2875 times:
Jet2 are only just getting started at MAN, but I think they will do pretty well. They have clearly defined targets and a couple of unique routes, as well as a strategy of advertising BEFORE the planes start arriving.
EZY wanted into MAN before they eventually settled on Liverpool. It was the higher airport charges that turned them off. Now they can see the benefits and market gap, so it's the right time to try it if gate space can be found.
There are routes such as those which Monarch Scheduled fly, which can be cherry picked too. I tried booking people on their TFS service (for example) a few times this year and Monarch were flying full. MAN also has budget travellers who might provide a potential userbase, namely people coming off longhaul flights who have used the Internet to make their own travel arrangements. Getting off a DL, MH, SQ or AA flight and arriving into an EZY base might attract the independent travellers who are increasing in number and recognise the EZY brand.
Gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2965 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2842 times:
If easyJet open a MAN base where does this leave LPL?
Can easyJet profitably run two seperate hubs with 25miles of each other going to similar destinations?
As easyJet is reliant upon a large number of passengers from the Manchester region to fill these flights. A few years back easyJet had to commission a direct bus service to Liverpool Airport from Manchester City Centre due to the lack of connections between the airport and Manchester.
Whitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2850 times:
No reason why not. LPL might lose a few flights, but that region alone has a catchment which would find LPL easier to get to then MAN.
Liverpool and Manchester aren't really that much different than Edinburgh and Glasgow when it comes to distance between them. LPL also has other benefits such as cheaper parking for travellers and the local traffic to Ireland.
MANmatt From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 969 posts, RR: 6 Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2745 times:
Of course EZY can succeed with two bases within a close proximity to each other, just look at LTN and STN, and to some extent LGW, three major bases all located reasonably close to each other. I would love to see EZY at MAN in the near future. I do think that the NCL service would be a none starter, surely there isnt enough demand for this kind of service.
When i was doing my dissertation on MAN, i was told that there was a certain number of new airlines the management wanted to attract to MAN, and i think they are still a few short of reaching their target. Having EZY at MAN would do wonders for the airport.
Mhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 27 Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2672 times:
GKirk - the rumours I've read do indicate a/c at MAN - 5 of them. Whether this is true or not remains to be seen.
the NCL route could potentially be succesful - the two cities are quite far apart to drive, with a journey time of 3 hours plus, so perhaps there is a niche there. Whether that niche is big enough for a 737/A319 is probably the biggest concern!
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Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19023 posts, RR: 53 Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2657 times:
Air Kilore (spelling?) using to operate MAN-NCL a few times daily using J31s or J41s. Then T3 did. Neither operated for long, mind. I'm not sure whether that was down to too higher prices, easy train rides, badly-timed flights, or what.
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David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7264 posts, RR: 14 Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2644 times:
Air Kilroe 's MME service was tied into an ICI agreement; at one stage in the late 1980s, they were flying no less than 5 times per day using Be200s. However, they did also get some other passengers, including a particular person who lived in the Manchester area whose job was in and around the Teesside area.
What we must also remember that this could be a red herring route i.e. another service may use the slots reserved e.g. BD's slot requests a few years ago which materialised into bmibaby slots in reality!
25 BlueShamu330s: I hope those who scorned this news over 6 months ago will now eat humble pie..... Rick767 and I mentioned all this ages ago. Regards Shamu............
26 Alcregular: I did see MAN-NCL a couple of years ago on sundays with BA, but I don't know if it was scheduled or not. I saw this flight for quite a few weeks. NCL-
27 ScottieDog: Manchester - Newcastle has been tried on a number of occasions in the past by various airlines. Mercury, Dan-Air, Eastern, but these carriers had alwa
28 GKirk: Alcregular...ah yes forgot about that...the old Sunday BA CitiExpress MAN-NCL-OSL-NCL-MAN route. ON weekdays it operated MAN-OSL-NCL-OSL-MAN. David_it
29 Rick767: Have fun on the 346 Shamu you lucky g*t! A few more years P1ing it on the 319 and I might just try and join you! Now, who's ready for a slice of humbl
30 GKirk: Rick, if you get back into BY rumours are you may get into the 332